Dillon 650 Powder Bar Adjustment

[G-Man WC]

I was hoping to get some 357mag loaded up today.
Just when I got everything out on the bench and was testing powder
throw did I find out the max 2400 I'm dropping in 10gr.
It will only adjust between 4.4 and 10gr. I've been able to drop over 14 before.
After taking it apart and cleaning did I notice what might be the issue.
Fellow reloader can you please take a look at the component attached to the powder bar. This is bent at the top and is scratching a line (marked in green) on the side of the base.

you can see the top of the fork is bent to the right compared to the bottem.



Is this the way the part should be or is it bent?

Thanks
-g

[AandO]

Yes Sir, that is proper. Just pulled out a new one to confirm.

I use a large rubber band to pull the powder throw bar (the moving drop bar) back for more accurate drops. Seems to work for me anyway.

Also, Upon looking at your top photo your powder bar appears to be moving. You should have a white plastic plug on the back side where the hole is on top of the powder base platform.

[G-Man WC]

Where are you attaching
the rubber band?

[AandO]

The rubber band is attached at the front of the funnel at the base and attached to the back metal post near the adjuster screw.

Do you have your adjustment section available in the owners manual by chance? If so, see page 23 Section H figures numbered 100 and 101, 102 and 103.....

Because:

It appears as if your failsafe rod is not adjusted properly. It is the metal rod with the wing nut on it. It would be the rod attached to pull the part in question down past the point that is rubbing. Friction there should not be happening.

Also, how much powder are you attempting to drop. The bar in your photos is the small powder bar used for drops of 3 to 10 grains. Maybe you need the large bar used for 10 to 45 grains plus to 50 grains.

Think I covered the issues here fully and sorry for the numerous edits, Super Bowl is on........

[Revoman]

Yup, those parts look to be correct. As stated, there is a small and a large powder bar, perhaps that is the issue? Or as also stated, the safety rod is not adjusted properly.

With the small bar in place, I can drop 2.6 grains of Bullseye for my paper-punching loads without issue.

[jericho89]

Change to the larger bar... Had the same issue with a load and remembered that I had changed for a lower load. Drove me crazy for a few minutes because I swore that the small bar could do more....

[G-Man WC]

I found my bag of parts and swapped out the small for the large bar. I'm still getting the same rubbing on the side. I just need to loosen things back up and adjust again. It should be so simple. -g

[jericho89]

Just remember you can always call Dillon and they will take care of you. I have had great service from them.

[bruce381]

you do have the 2 springs that go around the funnel and the white plug thing right?

[Revoman]

"you do have the 2 springs that go around the funnel and the white plug thing right? "

Yeah, the older models had the springs, the newer, which the OP's appears to be due to the newer powder hopper assembly, has the fail-safe rod as the springs replacement.

[bruce381]

yeah i have the old one but what pulls back the powder bar without a spring?
the fail safe thing? I thought that was kinda a ratchet that stops doble charges only

[G-Man WC]

Still at odds if it's the spring on the Slotted Bellcrank #97034
The issue is the powder bar returning to the rear. It's still
rubbing on the side of the Powder Measure #22273.
-g

[xfer42]

Is it tight throughout the entire travel?
Its supposed to be kind of loose. It looks like the Bowed Washer (14041) is flat, like it may be too tight. Try loosening the bell crank screw.

[bruce381]

call dillion get new parts then you know they will be straight

[RayB]

So you're not using the fail safe rod, correct?

If not, then zip tie them together toward the lower end of the elongated hole.