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  • domokun
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    • Apr 2008
    • 3525

    Which Single-Stage Lee Press Kit?!?!


    Lee 50th Anniversary Kit.


    Lee Breech Lock Challenger Press Kit.

    Which one? I can't tell what's the big difference between the two. Both kits look very similar?
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    sorensen440
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    • Mar 2007
    • 8612

    Looks like the bottom one has shellholders

    I would honestly consider saving up a bit more and getting a Progressive from dillon
    its worth it and i wish I had just started that way.
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    • #3
      domokun
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      • Apr 2008
      • 3525

      I will get a Dillon in the very near future but this will get me going and double as a nice backup in the event that something breaks on the Dillon and I have to wait for the part to arrive.
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      • #4
        Leon75x55
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        • Sep 2008
        • 272

        You can always get the Lee turret press, its about $90.00 from Graf and sons and you can use it a single stage press. The nice thing about it is that it has removable turrets that can be changed in about 15 seconds for each caliber.

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        • #5
          stevenjay1
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          • Feb 2008
          • 136

          How much ammo do you plan on loading at one time? And, will it be pistol and/or rifle; what calibers?
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          • #6
            macadamizer
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 967

            I've been using my Lee Anniversary kit for some time now. It would suck for any sort of bulk loading, but I typically load 50 or 100 rounds of rifle ammo a few times a month, one caliber at a time, so it's fine for that. Mostly .300 Win Mag, .300 Savage, sometimes .30/06 or 7.64x54R, stuff I am not shooting hundreds of rounds at a sitting of.

            If I were loading any sort of pistol ammo, or bulk plinker .223 or something, then a progressive is the way to go.

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              domokun
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              • Apr 2008
              • 3525

              Originally posted by stevenjay1
              How much ammo do you plan on loading at one time? And, will it be pistol and/or rifle; what calibers?
              I probably won't be loading a lot at first since there is a learning curve to reloading but after I get the hang of it I will probably want to process a lot more than 50-100 rounds an hour. I currently plan to reload 9mm, .45 ACP, .223 and possibly .308 in the future.

              I posted this because I couldn't really tell the difference between the two kits and wanted some guidance from people who currently reload as to which one between the two would be a better choice.
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              • #8
                Jicko
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                • Dec 2005
                • 8774

                Originally posted by domokun
                Which one? I can't tell what's the big difference between the two. Both kits look very similar?
                Go with RCBS Rock Chucker.... a MUCH better single stage press....
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                • #9
                  SanSacto
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 2205

                  This thread shows which items are exactly is needed in order to reload. Compare those against what is included in the kit you want to buy then make a decision.

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                  • #10
                    macadamizer
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 967

                    The Challenger kit has the breech-lock system, which allows you to change out the dies easier without having to readjust them each time -- might be a handy feature, although I personally don't find that readjustment to be a big deal (I am not trying to do bench-rest stuff either, so YMMV). The Challenger kit also include a case trimmer cutting head (although you still need the length gauge, and a zip-trim if you don't want to do the case trimming totally by hand) and the shellholder set for the auto-prime, which you need anyway. The auto-primer in the Challenger set is easier to use than the safety primer in the Anniversary set (the anniversary set used to include the auto-primer, but doesn't anymore).

                    I've been perfectly happy with my Lee setup, I will probably get a Dillion one of these days for doing pistol ammo, but for the relatively small amounts of rifle ammo I currently load, the Lee fits the bill.

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                    • #11
                      domokun
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                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3525

                      Originally posted by macadamizer
                      The Challenger kit has the breech-lock system, which allows you to change out the dies easier without having to readjust them each time -- might be a handy feature, although I personally don't find that readjustment to be a big deal (I am not trying to do bench-rest stuff either, so YMMV). The Challenger kit also include a case trimmer cutting head (although you still need the length gauge, and a zip-trim if you don't want to do the case trimming totally by hand) and the shellholder set for the auto-prime, which you need anyway. The auto-primer in the Challenger set is easier to use than the safety primer in the Anniversary set (the anniversary set used to include the auto-primer, but doesn't anymore).

                      I've been perfectly happy with my Lee setup, I will probably get a Dillion one of these days for doing pistol ammo, but for the relatively small amounts of rifle ammo I currently load, the Lee fits the bill.
                      Thanks! This was what I was looking for.
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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57193

                        The difference between the two kits is the priming system.
                        The bottom kit has the hand primer AND press-mount priming.
                        The top kit only has press-mount priming.
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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57193

                          Originally posted by sorensen440
                          Looks like the bottom one has shellholders
                          Those shellholders are for the hand priming tool, not for the press.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                          • #14
                            stevenjay1
                            Member
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 136

                            The Lee kit would be a good starter and a small investment, usually around a hundred bucks. But if you are going to to do a lot of shooting then a progressive is the way to go. You should save your pennies and get a Dillon. Steve
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                            • #15
                              dgey
                              Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 431

                              if you're new to reloading, start with a single stage press just like the ones you're looking at. You want to learn to reload properly before jumping into a progressive kit. Call some of your local gunshops and see if any of them offer reloading seminars... that's the best way to go...
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