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  • Rob Roy
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 1261

    .45 HD/SD ammo

    What do you recommend? I was thinking about Federal "Hydra-Shok" JHP 230/185 grains.
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    scr83jp
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 678

    I bought 1000 rounds of 220gr FMJ PMP 45acp ammo from Century Arms at a Las Vegas Shot show several years ago for $150 plus shipping of $13 & change, it's accurate in my Sig P220 .
    Last edited by scr83jp; 10-22-2008, 3:51 PM.

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    • #3
      scr83jp
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 678

      I purchased Magtech165gr Solid Copper Hollow Point +P 45acp ammo from midwayusa that I want to try in sig p220,colt 1991a1 & ruger bh 4 5/8" barreled revolver.

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      • #4
        Patriot
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 2982

        Whatever you go with, makes sure it is reliable in your HD/SD gun. I hear the "200 rds minimum" figure tossed around a lot.
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        • #5
          domokun
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 3525

          Here's the two HD ammo I'd use:

          Federal Law Enforcement Tactical HST 230gr. +P JHP.
          Hornady Close Quarters (CQ) TAP 230gr. +P JHP.

          This stuff is expensive but it's very accurate and uses low flash powder. If it's good enough for the LEOs to use as duty ammo, it must be good enough for HD.
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          • #6
            nobody_special
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 1041

            I'd use Federal HST instead of Hydra-shok... much better expansion characteristics.
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            • #7
              M. Sage
              Moderator Emeritus
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Jul 2006
              • 19759

              +1 to HST. All the "test" images I've seen out there really impressed me.

              What kind of handgun is this for, BTW? Some loads are better for short barrels, others are good in longer barrels. For example, 230 grain standard pressure is fine for a full-size handgun like a P220, but in a compact, you'll want to go with +p and/or lighter bullets.
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              • #8
                Moonclip
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2004
                • 4390

                Originally posted by M. Sage
                +1 to HST. All the "test" images I've seen out there really impressed me.

                What kind of handgun is this for, BTW? Some loads are better for short barrels, others are good in longer barrels. For example, 230 grain standard pressure is fine for a full-size handgun like a P220, but in a compact, you'll want to go with +p and/or lighter bullets.
                I agree pretty much 100% with this. Full length barrel .45acp, I go 230 standard pressure hydra shok usually, has a good record.

                Short barrel .45acp,which I really don't like though, I'd rather use something like the Winchester 185gr silvertip or something to get better expansion with the reduced velocity.

                +P I avoid especially in alloy frames and short barrels.
                .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                • #9
                  BlackDrop50
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1024

                  Federal HST is supposed to be a little better, and strangely, is cheaper at most places.

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                  • #10
                    shoupdawg
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 2362



                    I got a box of 20 hydrashoks in .45 acp for under $26 out the door so I have those. Plus, don't know how old this article is so don't know if they had HST back then. At any rate, good reading.
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                    • #11
                      M. Sage
                      Moderator Emeritus
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 19759

                      FFL Transfer | TDS is your online source for high quality ammunition. We stock only the best quality ammo at reasonable prices. Our reputation since 2000 speaks for itself. If your looking for the best, look no further.
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                      • #12
                        AJD
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 575

                        http://ammunitiontogo.com has 50 round boxes of defense/duty/hollowpoint for about the price you would pay for 20 at a local gun store. Most of the types of defense ammo they have available you can't find at a local store either.

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                        • #13
                          Moonclip
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 4390

                          Originally posted by shoupdawg
                          http://www.chuckhawks.com/ammo_by_anonymous.htm

                          I got a box of 20 hydrashoks in .45 acp for under $26 out the door so I have those. Plus, don't know how old this article is so don't know if they had HST back then. At any rate, good reading.
                          A very old article but a good read. It needs to be updated but it's a good start.
                          .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                          7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                          9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                          .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                          .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                          20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                          • #14
                            Rob Roy
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1261

                            Originally posted by M. Sage
                            +1 to HST. All the "test" images I've seen out there really impressed me.

                            What kind of handgun is this for, BTW? Some loads are better for short barrels, others are good in longer barrels. For example, 230 grain standard pressure is fine for a full-size handgun like a P220, but in a compact, you'll want to go with +p and/or lighter bullets.
                            The barrel length is 3.78 (glock)

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