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[Pauliedad]

Voo makes a great point. Learn from this and go forward. Figure out the mistake made then alter your process to avoid in future.

[Cheep]

You didn't say what kind of powder you use. Some powders take magnum primers to properly ignite, like W296 or H110. Although I don't think you would be using that in 45acp.

[BillyGoatCrawler]

Sorry that's all you got out of the post.

I think that's all everyone got. Sounds like the primers were working but you forgot a sufficient charge...?

I can say that I am less than satisfied with any ammunition Winchester produces and will not buy any components from them. Too many failures to fire from their products for me to keep paying for it.

[Pauliedad]

Been using winchester primers since the beginning of my loading career. Almost three years now with no ftf.
Is this a fluke? Is this reputation common?

[Eljay]

Been using winchester primers since the beginning of my loading career. Almost three years now with no ftf.
Is this a fluke? Is this reputation common?

Winchester primers are great.

I HAVE seen some weird problems with loaded Winchester ammo and their bulk products aren't that great. But they make really nice defensive rounds. Basically they just have high end and low end products and their primers are definitely quality.

There's something weird going on here. I have heard of some random results when people started wet tumbling and didn't deprime first and didn't get the cases totally dry and the moisture either partially killed the primer or some of the powder. If there WAS powder in there you would expect to see unburnt powder sticking to various places in the chamber and in the gun - it's not all magically going to vanish. But the OP would be wise to really investigate this rather than just assume the primers are bad.

[Eljay]

More potential sources of trouble...
1. Corncob or other media stuck in flash hole.
2. Powder contamination from lube or polish.

[himurax13]

More potential sources of trouble...
1. Corncob or other media stuck in flash hole.
2. Powder contamination from lube or polish.

I am sure I have had this happen before. That is why I don't lube cases anymore.

[SonofWWIIDI]

These look cool, but who would fire 5-6 rounds before they realize that things are not working right

At least these three guys.

And there are more pics of the same kinda thing.

[RogueSniper]

I thought the same as Pablo. Where's the powder?

No squibs for me. I make 5-10 test rounds. Weigh each. Remeasure and check with a gauge. Shoot one, check brass, check primer, check unburnt powder, check gun, then write notes. Repeat.

- I had some "bad" primers from Winchester (LPP and LRP). Turns out it's the firing pin.
- Some bad recipes - no KaBoom but a BIG SCARY BANG!
- Shot some subsonics and worried that it didn't actually fire. Ran a cleaning rod through just to be certain.
- Live round stuck in dirty chamber. Cleared the bench and thought it through.

Step by step diagnosis of every reload is necessary. You are working with a potential disaster if you don't follow certain steps. Learn a new lesson - we're always learning. Be humble, no one's perfect. BE SAFE.

[mjmagee67]

+100 for Pablo.

[sl0re10]

Sorry that's all you got out of the post.

Sorry; its what came to mind for me too. The bullet wouldn't make it into the barrel if the primer failed to fire.

If winchesters are not hot enough to use with your powder / case combo; that's not the seller's fault either (unless you asked if they'd work for your application).

But I DO get your other point about not mass producing rounds with a new recipe / component combo. Pulling bullets is not fun.

[TomReloaded]

I do 100+ for new loads. If you use known components and published loads youll be alright. Has anyone really started at min loads and had catastrophic failures? I havent even had a failure to cycle.

[sunnysmarine]

Not that this is what happened here but, I have had similar problems that showed up in accuracy decline and one squib with a full charge of powder only partially burned in a near magnum rifle case, Fault a broken hammer spring not striking the primmer sufficiently CCI primers were used the worst Winchester's primers worked better, Someone suggested that they were made of harder metal for auto firearms, Even my gunsmith blamed the RELOADS, after a month or more of wondering what I did wrong, one day after cleaning the rifle I dried fired it a dull spring noise instead of a snap.....replaced the spring and it goes BANG now I smile at how great my reloads shoot. Incomplete ignition of the primer was the result of a weak strike not fully igniting the powder. I have had pistol rounds with out powder before not fun, so I bought a Dillon problem solved

[tylenol9999]

I do 100+ for new loads. If you use known components and published loads youll be alright. Has anyone really started at min loads and had catastrophic failures? I havent even had a failure to cycle.

I had a number of failed to eject when doing load testing and starting with min load data.

[Cowboy T]

Sorry; its what came to mind for me too. The bullet wouldn't make it into the barrel if the primer failed to fire.

Same here. The two squibs I ever had, the bullet made it into the rifling and stopped there. No powder. But the primer sure did pop.

OP, could you let us know what you find after pulling some of those rounds?