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  • #16
    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20826

    it looks abit like some home project i wonder if you could buy one without the motor and provide your own?

    i'd love to try one hooked to a gas rc airplane engine

    judging by that tremendous capacitor on the side it must be a high speed motor

    anybody know the rpm?
    Last edited by bohoki; 10-19-2008, 6:38 PM.

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    • #17
      Bruce3
      Senior Member
      • May 2008
      • 1249

      don't know about the rpm but the Giraud is amazing! i gave up with the Lee case trimmer after doing 500rnd of .223, i think i got about 1500 cases trimmed chamfered a deburred with my Giraud in about 3 hours which is FAST in terms of case prep! i too was hesitant on dropping 4 bills on a trimmer but now i have it its worth every penny!

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      • #18
        Full Clip
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2006
        • 10264

        Wow -- I thought I was fancy with my RCBS Pro.

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        • #19
          CSACANNONEER
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2006
          • 44094

          Originally posted by Full Clip
          Wow -- I thought I was fancy with my RCBS Pro.
          When you're in my neck of the woods, I'll show you why the Giraud is so awesome! I'll also demo my K&M and CH4D trimmers as well.
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          • #20
            ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 57170

            Originally posted by USN CHIEF
            Hands down to the Giraud Trimmer. That thing is so freaking amazing. I have only had mine for a few days already and do not regret spending all that money on a trimmer.
            So now that you have all the toys, do you agree that it was worth it to buy the good stuff?
            It just reeks of quality, like a Wilson Combat 45, don't it...
            Randall Rausch

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            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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            • #21
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57170

              Originally posted by Gnzrme
              thanks for the answer....whats the difference in the Giraud and the Dillon?, Also, it looks like the giraud website is down because it will not open....
              The dillon trim die is basically a full length sizing die without a decapping pin or neck expanding bushing.
              There is a cavity on top of the die though instead of a decapping stem.
              The motor mounts on top of the die and a carbide cutter hangs down into that cavity.
              The case slides up into the sizing die portion of the trim die and sticks out the top where the cutter is cutting off the excess brass.
              There are two ports on the side of the die where brass trimmings escape the trimmer and get vacumed off when you attach a vacum.

              The dillon trimmer sizes and trims in one operation.
              It does NOT chamber or debur though.
              I have not found chamfering and deburring to be necessary though as the cut is so clean that it just leaves a square end to the case.

              It will be necessary to expand the case neck before seating bullets, but this can be handled in the first station of a progressive press, where a regular sizing die would normally live.


              The girard trimmer works more like a pencil sharpener.
              You have a cartridge specific adapter (die) that centers the case in the trimmer.
              This adapter slides in and out and is spring loaded.
              In use, you hold the case with your fingers, insert it into the adapter and rotate half a turn.
              The excess brass gets trimmed off by the carbide cutter.
              The cutter is shaped like a "V" so it cuts length and also chamfers inside and out.
              The adapter is adjustable for trim length and has a positive stop against the case shoulder.
              The cutter gets adjusted for different calibers.

              The cases need to be sized before you run them through the girard.
              Last edited by ar15barrels; 10-19-2008, 11:49 PM.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57170

                Originally posted by bohoki
                it looks abit like some home project i wonder if you could buy one without the motor and provide your own?
                You can buy a Gracey without the motor.
                Girard basically copied the gracey design, but made some improvements.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #23
                  supersonic
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2007
                  • 5885

                  If you buy a Gracey, you'll just end up regretting not buying the best: GIRAUD. PERIOD!

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                  • #24
                    Pthfndr
                    In Memoriam
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3691

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    Girard basically copied the gracey design, but made some improvements.
                    That is a pretty misleading statement. The Giraud is no where near a copy. Look at them side by side, look at the components. Giraud has his a patent on his machine. Patents are not normally issued for something that is an "improved copy" unless the "improvements are SUBSTANTIAL.

                    I'm not looking to start a pissing match. I just wanted to clarify things.

                    I'm a true believer of the Giraud machine. My shell holder and cutter collection is along the lines of your Dillon collection
                    Rob Thomas - Match Director NCPPRC Tactical Long Range Match

                    Match Director Sac Valley Vintage Military Rifle Long Range Match

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                    • #25
                      rksimple
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 6257

                      Doyle Gracey is a neighbor of mine. He told me about Doug calling him and telling him he was going to make a trimmer based off his design. Improvements were made. How significant? Thats up to you to decide.

                      The Giraud is the better machine.
                      GAP Team Shooter 5

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                      • #26
                        USN CHIEF
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11540

                        Man, I really don't know how you folks that have been trimming by hand do it. In 3 days I have managed to trim about 5k pieces of brass. Still have many thousands more to go. I love the Giraud Trimmer. Thank you Randall for recommending this machine.
                        Originally posted by tankerman
                        I think most folks bubba their AR's because they watch too many action movies, play too many video games and don't understand how to socialize properly, so they fantasize about being 'action hero's'. Kind of like little girls playing dress-up.
                        Originally posted by Douglas711
                        Is everybody stocking up on guys now? Just curious some gun prices seem to be getting high.

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                        • #27
                          grywlfbg
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 988

                          Randall said it best. I LOVE my Giraud.

                          The only thing I will tell people is that every few hundred rounds I run a Q-Tip w/ some alcohol where the case shoulder contacts the shell holder. I've had lube build up on that over time which holds the case further away from the cutter and leaves the cases long.

                          Yes, I'm probably over-lubing (I use the Dillon lube) but I don't get any lube dents and never had a stuck case so I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

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                          • #28
                            CSACANNONEER
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 44094

                            Originally posted by grywlfbg
                            Randall said it best. I LOVE my Giraud.

                            The only thing I will tell people is that every few hundred rounds I run a Q-Tip w/ some alcohol where the case shoulder contacts the shell holder. I've had lube build up on that over time which holds the case further away from the cutter and leaves the cases long.

                            Yes, I'm probably over-lubing (I use the Dillon lube) but I don't get any lube dents and never had a stuck case so I'll keep doing what I'm doing.
                            Yea, I just cleaned my collets last night. I'm glad I noticed the build up before I started trimming a fresh batch.
                            NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
                            California DOJ Certified Fingerprint Roller
                            Ventura County approved CCW Instructor
                            Utah CCW Instructor


                            Offering low cost multi state CCW, private basic shooting and reloading classes for calgunners.

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                            • #29
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57170

                              I tumble the cases to remove lube after sizing and before trimming.
                              No lube buildup in a Girard trimmer here...
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                              • #30
                                Pthfndr
                                In Memoriam
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 3691

                                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                                I tumble the cases to remove lube after sizing and before trimming.
                                No lube buildup in a Girard trimmer here...
                                Same here.
                                Rob Thomas - Match Director NCPPRC Tactical Long Range Match

                                Match Director Sac Valley Vintage Military Rifle Long Range Match

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