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  • ScottJoshuaLin
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 21

    Does crimping change the OAL/CAL

    Hey guys,
    I'm pretty new to reloading ammo.
    My question is: Does crimping change the cartridge overall length?
    My 9mm is 1.137" in CAL/OAL, but after taper crimping, the length became 1.138"

    Please Help!! Thank you!
  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    .001 is what your going to worry about?Its just a varience in the bullet!
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      JTROKS
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2007
      • 13093

      You are squeezing the bullet enough for the nose to stretch .001"? As I'm reading that you measured it before crimping and after crimping. I say yeah that's a little too much crimp unless you're loading marshmallow soft swaged bullets.
      The wise man said just find your place
      In the eye of the storm
      Seek the roses along the way
      Just beware of the thorns...
      K. Meine

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      • #4
        ScottJoshuaLin
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 21

        Originally posted by f4tweet
        Sounds like too much crimp.
        Measure the OAL before and after crimping, if it is longer, too much crimp. You should have the diameter of the bullet + about .020.
        Try seating and crimping in two separate operations.
        If you really want to be sure, put it in a kinetic bullet puller and pound it on the concrete. If it takes 4 or 5 hits, you have too much crimp. Once it is apart, look for a light ring on the bullet, not a heavy one.
        Remember, you are just removing the bell.
        I got a lot of help here when I first started.
        Thank you so much! I will prepare my next ten rounds with less crimp, and I already crimp and seat separately! Thanks again

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        • #5
          ScottJoshuaLin
          Junior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 21

          Originally posted by highpower790
          .001 is what your going to worry about?Its just a varience in the bullet!
          Haha, I know it's a small change, but the change is consistent with the ten rounds I've loaded. I believe less crimp will solve this. Thanks for your comment though; it makes me feel safer in terms of marginal error.

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          • #6
            ScottJoshuaLin
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 21

            Originally posted by JTROKS
            You are squeezing the bullet enough for the nose to stretch .001"? As I'm reading that you measured it before crimping and after crimping. I say yeah that's a little too much crimp unless you're loading marshmallow soft swaged bullets.
            Yes, I measured before and after. I'm loading Rainier 115gr plated bullets. With 4.2gr of Titegroup in Remington brass and federal primers w/ an OAL of 1.137" to be shot from a Glock 19.
            If anyone has a recipe they would like to share, please do!
            Thanks!
            Last edited by ScottJoshuaLin; 12-17-2014, 5:38 PM. Reason: Added a little more info.

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            • #7
              Joseblanco
              Junior Member
              • Aug 2014
              • 20

              Measure your bullets and you will find that the lengths are not equal on all of them. Use a comparator and measure it one third down the o-give.

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              • #8
                ScottJoshuaLin
                Junior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 21

                Also, I measured the OAL after seating the bullet with one stroke, then did another stroke with the same round and measured. The OAL was reduced..
                Is this normal?

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                • #9
                  JTROKS
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 13093

                  Originally posted by ScottJoshuaLin
                  Also, I measured the OAL after seating the bullet with one stroke, then did another stroke with the same round and measured. The OAL was reduced..
                  Is this normal?
                  I think that's the variance how the seating stem engaged the bullet. Are you loading hardcast bullets that are lubed? How often do you check or clean the bullet seater?
                  The wise man said just find your place
                  In the eye of the storm
                  Seek the roses along the way
                  Just beware of the thorns...
                  K. Meine

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                  • #10
                    gemini1
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2229

                    Originally posted by ScottJoshuaLin
                    Hey guys,
                    I'm pretty new to reloading ammo.
                    My question is: Does crimping change the cartridge overall length?
                    My 9mm is 1.137" in CAL/OAL, but after taper crimping, the length became 1.138"

                    Please Help!! Thank you!
                    lol I too noticed this, last time I did some loads, using cast 9x18 mak. But since the difference is not significant, I didn't bother to ask. Now I know its about the crimping process.
                    On a side note, woundn't it be better having a tight rather than a light crimp? at least you dont need to worry about bullet set back, right?

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                    • #11
                      ScottJoshuaLin
                      Junior Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 21

                      Originally posted by JTROKS
                      I think that's the variance how the seating stem engaged the bullet. Are you loading hardcast bullets that are lubed? How often do you check or clean the bullet seater?
                      I am reloading 9mm Luger plated bullets with a Lee single stage press and Lee 4 die set.

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                      • #12
                        ScottJoshuaLin
                        Junior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 21

                        Originally posted by gemini1
                        lol I too noticed this, last time I did some loads, using cast 9x18 mak. But since the difference is not significant, I didn't bother to ask. Now I know its about the crimping process.
                        On a side note, woundn't it be better having a tight rather than a light crimp? at least you dont need to worry about bullet set back, right?
                        I chambered the same round multiple times and had no bullet setback, but yes you're right. It's not significant at all. Haha

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                        • #13
                          pacrat
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2014
                          • 10258

                          .001" is one quarter the thickness of a piece of writing paper.

                          Fuggidaboudit.

                          It it fits in your mag, cycles through your pistol, and doesn't bind in the chamber.

                          SHOOTEM, ENJOY EM

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