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  • Ezekiel2000
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 856

    High Flash .223 Powder

    Looking for suggestions on a powder to use for .223 rounds that will produce good fireballs. Low Flash powder need not apply
    This will be for an AR pistol who's main purpose is just that...big balls of fire

    Any recommendations?


  • #2
    sargenv
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4620

    When I was shooting 30-30 winchester with light bullets in a 14" barrel, any of the IMR stick powders produced impressive fireballs.. IMR 4895, IMR 3031, and likely IMR 4320. Hodgdon H335 also produced a good amount of blast and I suspect BLC-2 would do the same. If you can get ahold of some WC844T, the T is for lighting Tracer bullets, and it doesn't have some of the flash supressant coating on it. If it's fire you want, stick to light bullets and the slower powders.. that way when you light them off, there will be plenty of powder still burning when that fast/light projectile is exiting the barrel..

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    • #3
      MR_X
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 424

      Lack of flash suppresor will help

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      • #4
        Ezekiel2000
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 856

        IMR powders is a good recommendation thanks. I use a Dillon 550...will the stick powders be troublesome through there you think?

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        • #5
          bigedp51
          Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 263

          Use the slowest burning ball powder recommended for .223/5.56 "rifle" loads. Double base Ball powders have more deterrent coatings to slow down the burn rate and lower the peak flame temperature. Try some WW748 in your AR15 pistol and bring your sun glasses.

          Also check to see if your home owners insurance covers burnt carpet when at the range.
          Last edited by bigedp51; 11-18-2014, 12:55 PM.

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          • #6
            krwada
            Senior Member
            CGN Contributor
            • Jun 2013
            • 1457

            .223 fireball

            H414 with magnum small rifle primers

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            • #7
              AandO
              Member
              • Nov 2014
              • 449

              Use Magnum Primers with W748

              Cook weenies 10 feet out

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              • #8
                dhagerty
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 90

                H335 and BLC-2 work great for that. in short barrels, they produce a great ball of fire!
                Daniel Hagerty
                NRA life member
                IHMSA CA State Director
                IHMSA# 42084L
                IHMSA News Editor

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                • #9
                  POINTMANDDT
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 2530

                  That looks like the members range at usi. Have you tried lighter fluid

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                  • #10
                    highpower790
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 3481

                    On the surplus market you may be able to find a Chinese produced powder called PSA...big fire ball!
                    Keep it simple!

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                    • #11
                      OpenSightsOnly
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1557

                      RG 4895

                      was still getting the flash even with magnum primers . . . .

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                      • #12
                        jdmstuff
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 761

                        My standard load with H355 produces large fireballs when I shoot without a flash hider.

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                        • #13
                          Jeff213
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 706

                          winchester 760 is the same thing as h414 also.

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                          • #14
                            Ezekiel2000
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 856

                            Found an interesting chart which many of you were probably already aware of:

                            That is in fact the member range at USI and I'll try not to burn the carpet down when I'm shooting

                            Hodgdon H355 is on it's way, thanks guys!

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                            • #15
                              krwada
                              Senior Member
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1457

                              A better burn rate chart

                              Originally posted by Ezekiel2000
                              Found an interesting chart which many of you were probably already aware of:

                              That is in fact the member range at USI and I'll try not to burn the carpet down when I'm shooting

                              Hodgdon H355 is on it's way, thanks guys!
                              Most burn rate charts are linear. That is they give the list as a single linear list. It is much better to use a burn rate data table. In this way, it makes it easier to find out which of the competing powders are similar with respect to burn rate.

                              As always, please consult the loading manuals to use the safe established loads. And if you can, use a chrono to test them out at the range. Also; it is always a good idea to check for pressure signs when testing and to STOP if you see anything amiss.

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