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  • bohoki
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    • Jan 2006
    • 20818

    red brass from the 40s?

    i'm just wondering if they had some different standards to what "brass" is cause i got some surplus lc 44 30 carbine brass and it is more red than the typical gold

    also it seems more brittle than modern commercial brass



    typical modern federal brass on right


    anybody have any spiffy info / trivia they care to share
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    JeffM
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2007
    • 4359

    Brass tarnishes and turns brown over time.

    Try polishing it.

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      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      It also gets more brittle with age.
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      • #4
        Beelzy
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2008
        • 9224

        Looks like the ammo in question spent years in a garage with no insulation.
        Hence they were subjected to a lot of hot and cold extremes for a bit. I would
        be careful with that stuff.

        The M1 throws the brass at your face, I would hate to see it spit more than
        that at you.
        "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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        • #5
          bohoki
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 20818

          Originally posted by JeffM
          Brass tarnishes and turns brown over time.

          Try polishing it.
          i put one on a grinder and wire wheel it seems to be this color throughout

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          • #6
            50 Shooter
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 1653

            Toss it, the brass is oxidizing and it's no longer any good. What I think you're seeing is dezincification, it happens to brass over time if not protected from the elements.

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            • #7
              halifax
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4440

              There is red brass and yellow brass. Plumbers in the old days used both. The red brass has a higher copper content. I don't know if cartridge cases were ever made of it though.
              Jim


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              • #8
                Beelzy
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 9224

                Oh yeah, there's red brass. But not for ammo.
                "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                • #9
                  gunboat
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 3288

                  Perhaps it has been reloaded too many times?

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                  • #10
                    TKM
                    Onward through the fog!
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 10657

                    50 Shooter is right. A lot of WWII stuff was made with zinc happy alloys, knives and personal equipment for the most part. Anything to save steel and copper for strategic usage. If you have to, go ahead and shoot it. Just don't plan on reloading.

                    Better yet, curio status. It's been a long time and zinc will go away. Ask any boater.
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