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  • tpc13
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 523

    titewad for 9mm 115 grain bullets

    For u reloaders out there. I can't find much powder these days. I need load data for Titewad 115 grain in 9mm. I know to start low and work load up. Anyone tried this mixture. Hodgdon Web says for 124 grain but none for 115 grain??
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    XxWoodsHunterxX
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1698

    I'm using 6.0gr under 115


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    EDIT: excuse me for my major almost harmful mistake to anyone reading this.
    i use 9mm 115gr with 4.0gr of titegroup not titewad.
    Last edited by XxWoodsHunterxX; 11-06-2014, 3:44 PM. Reason: mis information given

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    • #3
      rsrocket1
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 2769

      Originally posted by XxWoodsHunterxX
      I'm using 6.0gr under 115


      Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD
      I don't know where you are shooting, but stay away from me.

      6 grains of Titewad should be enough for a very nice kaboom. Even if you mistook Titewad for Titegroup, it is still a really big charge which should get you about 14,000 psi above 9mm +P. That much Titewad should get you about 79,000 psi.

      Look at the data for Titewad and Clays. You'll see that they perform almost exactly the same by weight, not volume. Titewad takes up quite a bit less space. From that data you can see that Titewad will build up pressure very quickly without driving the bullet very fast. Clays data says 3.0 to 3.4g for a 115g FMJ bullet. From that information, you can see that you should start with about 3.0g Titewad and work up to no more than 3.4g. You might have some cycling issues with that low of a velocity, but at least the pressures will remain safe.

      I've gone through about 8 pounds of Titewad and Clays and have found both to be excellent for low velocity/low recoil loads as well as 3/4 oz 12 gauge skeet and trap loads. I would never try to push a bullet to even moderate velocities with these powders, they simply burn too fast. But they do work very well for "powder puff" loads.

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      • #4
        filthy phil
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 366

        If you can get true blue try that with 115gr fmj.
        Have 500 loaded with 6.2
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        • #5
          sargenv
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 4620

          I had some luck loading 38 super with 130 gr bullets.. 3.5 gr got me average of 1022 fps for a PF of 133.. My ES was 18 and my SD was 5.. I suspect you could start as low as 3.0 - 3.2 and work your way up looking for signs of pressure in the 9mm.

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          • #6
            Pablo5959
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 1289

            I was getting flattened Tula primers using 4.2 gr of titegroup.
            So I backed down to 4.0.
            Pablo

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            • #7
              rsrocket1
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 2769

              Originally posted by Pablo5959
              I was getting flattened Tula primers using 4.2 gr of titegroup.
              So I backed down to 4.0.
              Pablo
              He's talking about TITEWAD not TITEGROUP

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              • #8
                XxWoodsHunterxX
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1698

                Originally posted by rsrocket1
                I don't know where you are shooting, but stay away from me.

                6 grains of Titewad should be enough for a very nice kaboom. Even if you mistook Titewad for Titegroup, it is still a really big charge which should get you about 14,000 psi above 9mm +P. That much Titewad should get you about 79,000 psi.

                Look at the data for Titewad and Clays. You'll see that they perform almost exactly the same by weight, not volume. Titewad takes up quite a bit less space. From that data you can see that Titewad will build up pressure very quickly without driving the bullet very fast. Clays data says 3.0 to 3.4g for a 115g FMJ bullet. From that information, you can see that you should start with about 3.0g Titewad and work up to no more than 3.4g. You might have some cycling issues with that low of a velocity, but at least the pressures will remain safe.

                I've gone through about 8 pounds of Titewad and Clays and have found both to be excellent for low velocity/low recoil loads as well as 3/4 oz 12 gauge skeet and trap loads. I would never try to push a bullet to even moderate velocities with these powders, they simply burn too fast. But they do work very well for "powder puff" loads.

                Yes i stand corrected reason #1 not to be on the internet when you are extremely tired, specially trying to give out advise. I was speaking of TITEGROUP and op was asking about TITEWAD. and yes i load my 115gr 9mm at 4.1gr Titegroup with CCI SP not 6.0gr.

                sorry again for the misinformation and thank you for correcting me and catching it.

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                • #9
                  JagerDog
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2011
                  • 15398

                  Originally posted by tpc13
                  For u reloaders out there. I can't find much powder these days. I need load data for Titewad 115 grain in 9mm. I know to start low and work load up. Anyone tried this mixture. Hodgdon Web says for 124 grain but none for 115 grain??
                  Whatever is safe for 124 gr will be safe for 115.
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                  • #10
                    Pauliedad
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2095

                    I know we were originally talking tightwad but let's get back to tightgroup...

                    Pablo, what bullet and what's your OAL?

                    4.2 gr. Tightgroup under a 115gr JRN at 1.125 is my happy load. Just made about 1000 of these pups.

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                    • #11
                      Pablo5959
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 1289

                      Originally posted by Pauliedad
                      I know we were originally talking tightwad but let's get back to tightgroup...

                      Pablo, what bullet and what's your OAL?

                      4.2 gr. Tightgroup under a 115gr JRN at 1.125 is my happy load. Just made about 1000 of these pups.
                      Sorry for the miss read on titewad.


                      I was loading Lee 124 gr TC cast, powder coated. I can't recall the OAL because I set my dies with a dummy round. But I crimp just outside the taper line.
                      As long as I don't compress the powder and the round cycles, OAL is not critical.
                      Pablo

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                      • #12
                        tpc13
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 523

                        Anyone else have load data for TITEWAD of 9mm?

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                        • #13
                          kalapa
                          Member
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 359

                          I've used Titewad in 9mm. I bought 1 lb of it a while back when literally nothing else was available. From my understanding however(which isn't much since I'm fairly new to reloading), Titewad isn't the best pistol powder. It has a very fast burn rate and can cause dangerous pressure spikes.

                          I used 3.7 grains with a OAL of 1.130" with pretty good results. As I recall it was actually a pretty good powder for the 9mm. Accurate and soft recoil. I started out loading it with 3.2 grains and it was like shooting a .22 lol. Had barely enough punch to cycle the action. I would've continued using it but after learning about it's unpopularity in pistol cartridges I stopped.

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                          • #14
                            Bainter1212
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 5936

                            I use Titewad for .45 acp. It is a nice clean powder for lower velocity loads.
                            Because it is such a fast powder you really need to be careful with your charge weights. If your powder thrower has a variance between throws you need to be careful you don't overcharge....it is easy to do with this powder.

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