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  • KahrGuy9
    Banned
    • Aug 2014
    • 198

    Alliant BE-86

    Anyone running this new powder?
  • #2
    TexasJackKin
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 718

    Not yet (haven't been able to find it) but I'm looking forward to trying it.
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    • #3
      Mot Mi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 1061

      My distributor is in line waiting for it and has no clue when alliant will start producing or shipping them. I am waiting to try then out too.

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      • #4
        maxx03
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 1416

        Originally posted by Mot Mi
        My distributor is in line waiting for it and has no clue when alliant will start producing or shipping them. I am waiting to try then out too.
        Angeles Reloading Store had some a couple of days ago. If they still have some tomorrow , I just might pick up a pound and work up some loads.
        Phillips wholesale will have some tomorrow morning.

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        • #5
          CGT80
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 2981

          Those charge weights seem higher than the other powders I use. I wonder how the density is, and what the benefits are over the common pistol/shotgun powders like 231/hp38, red dot, bullseye, ect. This is the first I have heard of this powder. Fortunately, I have enough pistol powder to last a very long time, so I don't need to pick any up. I will have to keep an eye out for other people's results.
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          • #6
            Bumslie
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            • Oct 2011
            • 5358

            The stockade in westminster had it today. I almost bought a lb, but I don't feel like working up new loads
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            • #7
              Braddah Jay
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 395

              I picked up 2lbs and checked out Alliants load data...Gonna try it out just for the hell of it.

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              • #8
                JagerDog
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                • May 2011
                • 13578

                Originally posted by CGT80
                Those charge weights seem higher than the other powders I use. I wonder how the density is, and what the benefits are over the common pistol/shotgun powders like 231/hp38, red dot, bullseye, ect. This is the first I have heard of this powder. Fortunately, I have enough pistol powder to last a very long time, so I don't need to pick any up. I will have to keep an eye out for other people's results.
                It's slower than the fast pistol powders (charge weight). Closer to Unique, Universal, etc. No idea why they tried to attribute it to Bullseye. Less muzzle flash seems to be the selling point. Many of the HD ammo suppliers have been touting muzzle flash, so Alliant created (or marketed) to that end.
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                • #9
                  wild_weasel
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1256

                  I bought a pound and loaded up 50 rounds of 9mm using online data from the Alliant. My usual target load is 5 gr of Unique under a 115gr xTreme copper plated bullet which is mild yet 100% reliable, no flash, in the Gen 4 Glock 19 and 26. Using 5.5gr of BE-86 under a 115gr Nosler JHP had considerably more punch, with moderate flash.
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                  • #10
                    J-cat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2005
                    • 6626

                    Originally posted by JagerDog
                    No idea why they tried to attribute it to Bullseye.
                    Because it is a variant of Bullseye, like Bullseye and Power Pistol. Bullseye is fast burning. Power Pistol is slow burning. Bullseye 86 is medium burning.

                    I suspect it is the same stuff loaded in Federal pistol ammo. Power Pistol was used in 9mm NATO ammo for a long time. But it's flashy and muzzle blastly. This stuff is prolly better in that respect.

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                    • #11
                      rsrocket1
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 2760

                      I think it is because it starts with the same base as Bullseye, but just like Power Pistol (BE-84), they either add inhibitors to slow it down or add less nitroglycerine. Original BE has a very high NG content. BE-86 is touted as similar to PP but with less flash and muzzle blast. If you look at the PP load data, you need more powder than you do with your typical loads of Unique, W231 etc, but you can squeak out those extra few fps'.

                      Personally, I would prefer that they simply produced enough Unique, Red Dot and Bullseye to supply our needs.

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                      • #12
                        J-cat
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2005
                        • 6626

                        But this stuff meters better.

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                        • #13
                          KahrGuy9
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2014
                          • 198

                          Originally posted by wild_weasel
                          I bought a pound and loaded up 50 rounds of 9mm using online data from the Alliant. My usual target load is 5 gr of Unique under a 115gr xTreme copper plated bullet which is mild yet 100% reliable, no flash, in the Gen 4 Glock 19 and 26. Using 5.5gr of BE-86 under a 115gr Nosler JHP had considerably more punch, with moderate flash.
                          Did you happen to chrono that load? Nice to know it meters well.

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