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  • #31
    milotrain
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 4301

    Originally posted by Gunsrruss
    I guess it wouldn't help ?????
    I've seen no accuracy benefit going to a Redding die in an AR. It's still a .5moa gun. I do like that I can dial the micrometer for the three different bullets I shoot, and as a connivence it helps but I can't prove that it benefits accuracy.

    I have 3000 LC cases mostly between '97 and '12, with the vast majority being '09 and '10. All nato stamped. As a test I weighted 50 random cases and 50 '10 cases. The spread within the '10 lot was as wide as the random lot. To extend this test I loaded up 20 rounds of 600 yard ammo. I threw it all on a Dillon 550.
    I used Berger 80gr VLDs, Nosler 80gr, Berger 82gr HPBT, and a Nosler 77.
    I used Winchester, LC, and PMC brass.
    I used CCI, Tula, and Remington 7.5 primers.

    I gave them all to an unsuspecting friend to shoot a 600 yard practice stage. He shot in the high 190s with a tight 8 (at 6) out the bottom on the Nosler 77.

    If you are bolt gunning a lot more care matters, if you are using an AR then meh. YMMV

    The same old stogy Marine coach that highpower790 was talking about walked down the line at a practice match gathering one round from each competitor and shot a clean at 300 yards.
    Last edited by milotrain; 08-16-2014, 11:33 AM.
    weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
    frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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    • #32
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      Originally posted by milotrain
      I've seen no accuracy benefit going to a Redding die in an AR. It's still a .5moa gun. I do like that I can dial the micrometer for the three different bullets I shoot, and as a connivence it helps but I can't prove that it benefits accuracy.

      I have 3000 LC cases mostly between '97 and '12, with the vast majority being '09 and '10. All nato stamped. As a test I weighted 50 random cases and 50 '10 cases. The spread within the '10 lot was as wide as the random lot. To extend this test I loaded up 20 rounds of 600 yard ammo. I threw it all on a Dillon 550.
      I used Berger 80gr VLDs, Nosler 80gr, Berger 82gr HPBT, and a Nosler 77.
      I used Winchester, LC, and PMC brass.
      I used CCI, Tula, and Remington 7.5 primers.

      I gave them all to an unsuspecting friend to shoot a 600 yard practice stage. He shot in the high 190s with a tight 8 (at 6) out the bottom on the Nosler 77.

      If you are bolt gunning a lot more care matters, if you are using an AR then meh. YMMV

      The same old stogy Marine coach that highpower790 was talking about walked down the line at a practice match gathering one round from each competitor and shot a clean at 300 yards.
      Milo I will continue to use my match river rock bullet seater.Once again it seemed to work just fine ,xperimenting with 4895 netted a 100 4x rp.
      Last edited by highpower790; 08-16-2014, 1:27 PM.
      Keep it simple!

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