crimping

[J-cat]

Nothing has been said of deforming bullets just cases do to using poorly trimmed brass that was necks sized down from 30rem and if I also seat them deeper it would rise chamber pressure witch I would say in a gun that's over a 105 years old is bad

Heard of adjusting the powder charge? Seat deeper, use less powder?

[h.charlie]

no not going to change the powder charge. The charge of 23.5gn witch is 2.5 gn less then when you first start to notice pressure signs, specifically it starts to flatten the primer at 26 gn. the point of this post is to talk about using the sizing die to get a effective crimp, I already have them seated to the right depth both the make shift crimp and roll crimp form in the bottom part of the cannula.

[ar15barrels]

both the make shift crimp and roll crimp form in the bottom part of the cannula.

Then you should be fine with what you are doing.

[J-cat]

Cannula?

Bwahahaha!

OK, from what I understand of your writing you're claiming that using the sizer die to crimp variable length cases does not buckle them like a standard seater die would. I guess it's because the neck sizing part is larger in diameter and allows the case mouth to "flow" into the cannelure instead of bottoming out.

Good Job!

You are an innovator in the hand loading arena.

[h.charlie]

sorry cannelure

[FLIGHT762]

You're going to put you're Eye out.

[bubbala]

i guess i have to go back to square one.
why do you think you need a crimp? if the bullet is loose in the case neck there are other simpler and safer ways to get neck tension, although you'd have to pull the bullets to use them.

[Wrangler John]

Charley:

There are easier ways to keep the ol' .25 Remington running, and I really like the idea of keeping them shooting. Like everything easy, costs a bit of money - and time. Here is one way to get the correct dies: http://www.ch4d.com/products/dies/ca...&filter=25+Rem Just click on the second row down for the 25Rem and a complete listing of all the dies will popup. You can get a form die, or use a trim die to form and file off the excess, then run them through a F.L. die. I do this for a number of cartridges. They also offer a proper .25 Remington Taper Crimp Die.

Or you can just get one of these:

http://www.forsterproducts.com/store.asp?pid=37130 and trim just about everything. I used about every trimmer on the market, but keep coming back to this one, I just bought three more two weeks ago. .25 Remington requires a #2 Collet (CT2002) and a #25 Pilot (CT1025).

Good luck and happy improvising. Necessity is the mother of invention.