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  • nahpungnome
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 2159

    Powder usage by brand sticky possible?

    Is it possible to sticky a post with a list of which powders work with pistol, shotgun, or rifle? As a newb I can't remember by names, especially the IMR ones that are named 4xxx, if they work with pistol or not.

    Something in the format of:

    Longshot - Pistol (caliber), Shotgun
    Power Pistol - Pistol (caliber)


    or

    Pistol:
    Longshot (caliber)
    Power Pistol (caliber)

    Shotgun:
    Longshot

    If this is a bad idea, I apologize, but looking at sites like gunbot to see if stuff is in stock or not is really tedious without a one stop resource. Instead of going to the company's websites, I thought it'd be easier since a lot of us spend time in the forums.
  • #2
    Wykyd
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 430

    Just look at reloading manuals and data on websites... I made an excel spreadsheet of each powder and its strengths. I can just look at that now when I have a question.
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    • #3
      nahpungnome
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2013
      • 2159

      Originally posted by Wykyd
      Just look at reloading manuals and data on websites... I made an excel spreadsheet of each powder and its strengths. I can just look at that now when I have a question.
      Yeah I do that now, but sometimes a powder will show up on gunbot and I don't know what it's used for. I'll look it up, go to the website to buy, and it's gone I guess I can just try to remember what's used for what as my reloading hobby goes on.

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      • #4
        jdmstuff
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 761

        I have a note saved on my phone that I can reference when I see powder on the shelves at the store. Of course, this comes in handy when looking at gunbot or any other reloading store's website.

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        • #5
          rm1911
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 4073

          What might also be helpful is an ok, good, better, ideal, and no way type chart.

          Like 9mm: Bullseye ok to good. Power pistol and AA#5 ideal. #9, h110 nope.

          I don't have experience in 9 with 231, red dot, unique, titegeoup, et al. although I've read they can all be effective.

          Given today's pistol powder situation (oddly enough rifle is coming around. Check gunbot. Rifle powders aren't really as bad a problem nowadays.) you need to find something that's workable rather than ideal. In fact, what would make it a really good chart is if you reload for multiple calibers. Odds are one powder can work across the spectrum. I'm almost at that point. I've tried to narrow my needs to one or two.
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          • #6
            3RDGEARGRNDRR
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 900

            If you are keen on your reloading, at the very least you should know which powder you are looking/ waiting for by now.
            Sorry, the sticky would create liability issues
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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Dec 2006
              • 44093

              No "pistol" powder works for all handgun cartridges. No "rifle" powder works for all RIFLE cartridges. No shotgun powder works for all types and sizes of shotshells.
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              • #8
                nahpungnome
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2013
                • 2159

                Originally posted by 3RDGEARGRNDRR
                If you are keen on your reloading, at the very least you should know which powder you are looking/ waiting for by now.
                Sorry, the sticky would create liability issues
                Well as a newb a little over a month ago (still a newb), I didn't know what to look for. So I googled, found some things that were promising, but they're all sold out. Long story short, I would've never known you could use certain shotgun powder for 45 ACP if it weren't for a fellow calgunner.

                This can be daunting (and it still is for me) as far as what's available and what you can use as a substitute for an ideal powder. Luckily I've found some powder recently (8lbs Green Dot and 8lbs Power Pistol), but I could've missed out if I took too long researching if you could use Green Dot for 45ACP since gunbot didn't list what it was used for.

                Sure now I know some powders, but I figured it would help others if there was some sort of central list available for everyone. I wasn't looking for load data, just what can be used for certain calibers.

                I don't see why there would be any liability issues, since people should double check anyway.

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                • #9
                  Yreka
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 316

                  Originally posted by jdmstuff
                  I have a note saved on my phone that I can reference when I see powder on the shelves at the store. Of course, this comes in handy when looking at gunbot or any other reloading store's website.
                  This is what I did as well.. Made 2 lists one of common rifle powders, and one for common pistol powders that I load for:
                  Here are my lists (YMMV of course depending on what you load for)

                  Rifle list=
                  BL-C2
                  CFE-223
                  H322
                  H335
                  IMR 2230 2460 3031 4064 4298 4895
                  N133 135 or 140
                  Reloader 15
                  Tac
                  Varget
                  WC844
                  Win748
                  8208XBR

                  Pistol/Revolver List=

                  Reloader 2 and 5
                  Red or blue Dot
                  Win 231
                  Power Pistol
                  Bullseye
                  Titegroup
                  HP38
                  Unique
                  IMR 700X
                  4756
                  H110(mag)
                  Universal

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                  • #10
                    nahpungnome
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2159

                    Originally posted by rm1911
                    What might also be helpful is an ok, good, better, ideal, and no way type chart.

                    Like 9mm: Bullseye ok to good. Power pistol and AA#5 ideal. #9, h110 nope.

                    I don't have experience in 9 with 231, red dot, unique, titegeoup, et al. although I've read they can all be effective.

                    Given today's pistol powder situation (oddly enough rifle is coming around. Check gunbot. Rifle powders aren't really as bad a problem nowadays.) you need to find something that's workable rather than ideal. In fact, what would make it a really good chart is if you reload for multiple calibers. Odds are one powder can work across the spectrum. I'm almost at that point. I've tried to narrow my needs to one or two.
                    Yep, given how hard it was trying to find powder as my equipment was coming, I learned that I had to kind of settle with something that worked, not necessarily what was best.

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                    • #11
                      Yreka
                      Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 316

                      Originally posted by nahpungnome
                      Well as a newb a little over a month ago (still a newb), I didn't know what to look for. So I googled, found some things that were promising, but they're all sold out. Long story short, I would've never known you could use certain shotgun powder for 45 ACP if it weren't for a fellow calgunner.

                      This can be daunting (and it still is for me) as far as what's available and what you can use as a substitute for an ideal powder. Luckily I've found some powder recently (8lbs Green Dot and 8lbs Power Pistol), but I could've missed out if I took too long researching if you could use Green Dot for 45ACP since gunbot didn't list what it was used for.

                      Sure now I know some powders, but I figured it would help others if there was some sort of central list available for everyone. I wasn't looking for load data, just what can be used for certain calibers.

                      I don't see why there would be any liability issues, since people should double check anyway.
                      Best advice for someone in this situation IMO is to get a reloading book or two and note what powders are listed for what you plan on reloading for. Take notes then start shopping.. If you cross reference 2-3 you will end up with a pretty comprehensive list of what works
                      Last edited by Yreka; 07-11-2014, 10:36 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Enfield47
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 6385

                        Originally posted by Yreka
                        Best advice for someone in this situation IMO is to get a reloading book or two and note what powders are listed for what you plan on reloading for. Take notes then start shopping.. If you cross reference 2-3 you will end up with a pretty comprehensive list of what works
                        +1 and visit the manufactures websites. Make a list of the powders that will work for a given caliber then research which is better or more versatile. This is how I started out and it was a huge help by reading posts on several boards about powders. Remember just because a powder is listed for a certain caliber, it doesn't mean it's the best one for that caliber. Peruse the web and soon you'll have a good amount of information on the various powders.

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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 44093

                          Sure some shotgun powders work for some pistol loads. Any reloading manual will indicate that. Hell, some shotgun powders will work in some rifle cartridges too. I have used red dot to load 12g, 25acp and 30-30. But, I don't think it would work well in .410, 5.7 or .308. In the end, the only list you should use is one you have come up with for your own needs.
                          Last edited by CSACANNONEER; 07-12-2014, 2:57 AM.
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                          California DOJ Certified Fingerprint Roller
                          Ventura County approved CCW Instructor
                          Utah CCW Instructor


                          Offering low cost multi state CCW, private basic shooting and reloading classes for calgunners.

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                          • #14
                            3RDGEARGRNDRR
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 900

                            Originally posted by nahpungnome

                            I don't see why there would be any liability issues, since people should double check anyway.
                            If someone published titegroup to load 223 and 308 and some knucklehead tried it out, overcharged and blew his/herself up, you think the moderators would feel ok with stickying that information?

                            When you have some experience reloading, you will understand that this question does not need to be posted as loads are very dependent on a great deal of variables, not just powder.
                            If someone is going to load a particular powder, they also need to post what bullet weight, coa, primers, barrel lenth,twist, velocity, etc etc,
                            the loads are particular, and dont work the same in every gun even if its the same caliber.
                            a 45-70 load wont work in every 45-70 gun
                            a 223 load may not cycle your 556
                            a 38 for plinking is not the same as a hunting load.
                            so no a sticky wont work sorry
                            that was the reloading forum was created for.

                            We all appreciate your enthusiasm, we really do, and understand why this idea theoretically would help,
                            but the art of ammocrafting really deserves patience and lots of forethought to avoid catastrophic consequences
                            Last edited by 3RDGEARGRNDRR; 07-12-2014, 6:51 AM.
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                            • #15
                              CalTeacher
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 828

                              OP, how about instead of adding another sticky to the already too long list in this forum you just take the time to read reloading manuals and manufacturers literature. Honestly, after enough reading and examination of load data for different cartridges you'll begin to understand which powders are a good fit for the cartridges you want to load. All it takes is some time reading the material.

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