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  • jglass
    Junior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 7

    new to reloading, .40 s&W starting point?

    i have 165g RNFP and looking for a good starting point with powder, i Lyman's manual and has no suggestions for this style bullet. any help or insight would awesome. shooting a Glock 22
    thanks
  • #2
    BenHa
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 838

    Start with the min load for the 165 TMJ and slowly work your way up from there.

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    • #3
      aaRdog
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • May 2011
      • 288

      I have found that neither baking powder nor talcum powder in any capacity seem to work. I also noticed that caps in placer of primers did not work, nor did other caliber cases. I then consulted a variety of reloading manuals and read them. After that, I went out and got an appropriate available smokeless powder, primer, and cases for reloading my pistol and started at the minimum recommended charge and worked up the load to meet my needs.
      "Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel is just a freight train coming your way" - METALLICA

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      • #4
        thenodnarb
        Veteran Member
        • May 2009
        • 2603

        What pistol powders do you have to use?
        The speer manual has a listing for 165s in 40 S&W.

        N350 Startign charge 6.7
        HS-7 9.0
        WSF 6.2
        Power Pistol 7.0
        Universal 5.7
        AA no 5 7.6
        unique 6.2
        hs-6 8.0
        AA no 7 9.6
        titegroup 5.0
        231 5.8
        bullseye 5.3


        Please note, its my day off and I've had a beer or two and I am not being particualry careful with my dictation or typing. Get the speer manual to confirm.

        How I Powder Coat Pistol Bullets
        How I Powder Coat Rifle Bullets

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        • #5
          3RDGEARGRNDRR
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 900

          Another reason its almost time to join some other reloading forum.
          CA: Exorcising my 2A rights

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          • #6
            J-cat
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2005
            • 6626

            I like 4grs of Bullseye or TiteGroup, 1.150" OAL.

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            • #7
              ducky_0811
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 759

              5.1 gr unique loaded to 1.125". In the future try not to use the forums as a reloading manual, most people here are more than happy to give you suggestions and help, but even the weakest of google-fu can turn up loads of advice, just remember to cross reference all data. Btw, hodgdons website offers complete data for the 165, that's where I got my start.

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              • #8
                thenodnarb
                Veteran Member
                • May 2009
                • 2603

                Originally posted by 3RDGEARGRNDRR
                Another reason its almost time to join some other reloading forum.
                Do it.

                How I Powder Coat Pistol Bullets
                How I Powder Coat Rifle Bullets

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                • #9
                  Paperchasin
                  YOU are next!!
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 6407

                  Depends on the powder you're loading with.
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                  • #10
                    Coyotegunner
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1353

                    If a reload manual is without information,the internet is my friend.
                    I usually just call the manufacturer of the powder or the bullets.All of them I have spoke to over 35 years of loading have helped me without any trouble.

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                    • #11
                      jglass
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 7

                      well thank you everyone for your insight and advice it is much appreciated,

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                      • #12
                        CGT80
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 2981

                        Every gun is different. Start low and work up. Your case overall length will vary from gun to gun. I like the lyman 47th reloading book, iirc, and hodgdons web site. My perfect 40 load may suck in your gun. 231/hp38 is my favorite powder. Red dot is cheap and popular too.
                        He who dies with the most tools/toys wins

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                        • #13
                          rix
                          Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 156

                          Originally posted by CGT80
                          Every gun is different. Start low and work up. Your case overall length will vary from gun to gun. I like the lyman 47th reloading book, iirc, and hodgdons web site. My perfect 40 load may suck in your gun. 231/hp38 is my favorite powder. Red dot is cheap and popular too.
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                          • #14
                            sjb269
                            Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 297

                            I have called powder manufactures, bullet manufactures, and primer manufactures directly.
                            They have all been more than willing to help with information and data. When you call, just be sure to have a definitive question for them and don't ramble. Reloading component companies have a vested interest in giving out good info.

                            With that being said…Be conservative with the .40 S&W… high pressure rounds can bite those who don't respect it.

                            I have no qualms starting LOW and working up from there…sooooo what if my first couple powder charges don't cycle the action. AND GET A CHRONOGRAPH!
                            if you don't have one already.

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                            • #15
                              Kappy
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 5349

                              I'm a big fan of Winchester 231. I'd try about 5.0 gr to start.

                              My thing about loading pistol is that I want the lightest load possible which will fully function the firearm. I've noticed that they usually shoot more accurately and likely wear things out more slowly.
                              Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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