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  • Dark Mod
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 4284

    Dillon 650 casefeeding issues

    Hi guys, i recently sold my Hornady Ammo Plant and bought a Dillon 650 and 1050. Ive barely set them up, but have the 650 on trimming duty using the Dillon 1200 trimmer and the 1050 on loading duty.

    At any rate, im have difficulty with the brass feeding system once the case drops onto the ramp. The shuttle assembly that pushes the bras through the rails and into station 1 often jiggles it just enough to make it cant resulting in it flopping over when it reaches the shellplate.

    This happens often. Ive looked around for some sort of adjustment to make the shuttle assembly move more slowly but couldnt find anything. Is this a case where i need to clip a coil or 2 off the spring that brings the shuttle toward the shellplate?

    Im trimming .223 by the way
  • #2
    Coyotegunner
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 1353

    I have a 550 with the case feeder.
    When used for a while,Ok a lot.The little slide plate will start to get a little sticky from the oil and crud under it.Having spring pressure already against it,it will stick just a little then suddenly jump giving that result.
    I take it apart and clean all the grud out with a little rubbing alcohol,swabs and a toothpick.I break the toothpick and use needle nose pliers in the little grooves.
    Hope this helped.

    Is this real stable on the table?I know you have reloaded a cr*pload.
    Just saying.I had to back mine with a 2x6.It has the strongback,but has a lot of stuff going on when I get cranking.
    On the 550 anyway,the spring pressure is constant.The mechanism rolls down into a valley then up again.When it get sticky,it caused the little jump.Did not turn them all funny,just every once in awhile.Enough to stop for a moment and irritate a person.
    When I clean that thing,I do go back with a little drop of oil.I like that swamp cooler oil(10 wt machinery)from Walmart in bldg. supplies.Has a nifty little straw that extends.
    Last edited by Coyotegunner; 06-29-2014, 2:44 PM.

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    • #3
      Dark Mod
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 4284

      Originally posted by Coyotegunner
      I have a 550 with the case feeder.
      When used for a while,Ok a lot.The little slide plate will start to get a little sticky from the oil and crud under it.Having spring pressure already against it,it will stick just a little then suddenly jump giving that result.
      I take it apart and clean all the grud out with a little rubbing alcohol,swabs and a toothpick.I break the toothpick and use needle nose pliers in the little grooves.
      Hope this helped.
      Great info! The press is brand new, ive had it mounted on the bench for about 36 hours and i made sure to clean it with hornady one shot before i mounted it. Me thinks its something to do with the mechanics

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57141

        Originally posted by Dark Mod
        At any rate, im have difficulty with the brass feeding system once the case drops onto the ramp. The shuttle assembly that pushes the brass through the rails and into station 1 often jiggles it just enough to make it cant resulting in it flopping over when it reaches the shellplate.

        This happens often. Ive looked around for some sort of adjustment to make the shuttle assembly move more slowly but couldn't find anything. Is this a case where i need to clip a coil or 2 off the spring that brings the shuttle toward the shellplate?
        First, which SIDE of the ramp are you using?
        There are two different sides, one for pistol and one for rifle.
        Next, make sure the rod that actuates the shuttle is adjusted correctly.
        Don't go clipping any springs!
        Lastly, there is a definite rhythm to learn how you operate the 650.
        You go slower on the return than when you are pulling the handle.
        The smoother you run the press, the happier you will be...
        Randall Rausch

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        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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        • #5
          jp1911
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 178

          Check the clearance of the slider to the ammo shoot. I was having a similar problem and found that it was rubbing just a little on the shoot. I tweaked the shoot a little bit to see if that was the problem and it took care of it. I later went back and marked and trimmed the shoot for a permanent repair.

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          • #6
            bruce381
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 2452

            I took out the case guide and smothly filed a chamfer on the edge where the case rim starts in. Kinda mak it more of a funnel this seems to stop or reduce the case jumping out of the "track".

            Also good for 44 mag and 45 LC and 357 thay all seem to get tilter and smashed in the sizer die.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57141

              Originally posted by bruce381
              I took out the case guide and smothly filed a chamfer on the edge where the case rim starts in. Kinda mak it more of a funnel this seems to stop or reduce the case jumping out of the "track".

              Also good for 44 mag and 45 LC and 357 thay all seem to get tilter and smashed in the sizer die.
              The end of travel is wrong on the case inserting slide if your cases are being leaned over by the case inserting slide.
              The case insert slide should stop and leave the case properly located.
              The case should NOT be stopping the travel of the case insert slide.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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              • #8
                bruce381
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 2452

                on mine slide has nothing to do with it the case drops flat just sometimes the case will ride up on on side or the other and NOT go into this guide flat.

                Maybe bent rims I do not know but smothing the guide entrance helped me perhaps not what Op was asking.

                I will chek what you mention maybe I have a problem there also and do not know it

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57141

                  Originally posted by bruce381
                  I will chek what you mention maybe I have a problem there also and do not know it
                  The case insert slide has a slot where you remove the ramp to flip it around.
                  The ramp is what actuates the slide as the rod comes down the ramp.
                  If you notice where the two plastic parts bolt together that it is slotted there.
                  That's so you can adjust the insert slide to stop JUST as the case stops in the shellplate.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #10
                    MrElectric03
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1590

                    I've never had that problem with mine and I have the same setup. Can you maybe take a picture of the case feed area around the shell plate showing the locater and feed ramp?
                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
                    We must be on calguns...

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                    • #11
                      Dark Mod
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 4284

                      Originally posted by MrElectric03
                      I've never had that problem with mine and I have the same setup. Can you maybe take a picture of the case feed area around the shell plate showing the locater and feed ramp?
                      Yeah I think I better do that. I'm on my way to New York and I'll take a video and some pics when I get back

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                      • #12
                        bruce381
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 2452

                        I got a new station 1 case locator from dillion and that solved the case tipping problem for me.

                        The end that the case starts into was machined a little different than the one I have had for years that was giving me problems.

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                        • #13
                          Chief-7700
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 3382

                          This may help.
                          Chief
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                          XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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                          • #14
                            FresnoRob
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 2133

                            We have the same setup. The 650 is rock solid the 1050 can be finicky.
                            If none of the good advice above helps call Dillon support. Their support is first class.

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