Common 9mm load recipe with xtreme bullets

[crosskonaftw]

I am loading some 9mm rounds with xtreme 115 grain round nose projectiles (copper plated), with Hodgdon CFE pistol powder. When I searched the company's website for load data, it returned the two loads shown below. I am pretty sure LRN means lead round nose, however I am unsure what SPR GDHP means except maybe the HP = hollow point.



According to another thread I started about OAL, my final understanding is that OAL should be between 1.125-1.130" for this round. That's why I'm leaning towards using the TOP recipe to start with, because:

• OAL is consistent with thread, AND longer than recipe 2 so less risk of OVERpressure
• Starting load of 5.3 grains is still within operating limits of recipe 2

Has anyone loaded this round or something similar and has anything to say or recommend? Any input is appreciated

[ironhorse1]

Speer Gold Dot hollow point.

A very specific bullet recipe.

I haven't tried CFE so just follow recommended data.

irh

[J-cat]

5.5grs under a 124 is real good @ 1.250-1.170". So 5.3 under a 115 @ 1.130" should work. From my work up it seems CFE likes to be near max pressure with light bullets.

[1bulletBarney]

I have loaded a trial, actually a first time reloading venture using CFE pistol for 9mm right at the data from Hodgdon website.

xtreme 115 grn plated RN
30 rnds @ 5.3 grns and 30 rnds @ 5.5 grns
OAL @ 1.130 +/- .002
light taper crimp @ .375 +/- .002
brass was range pick-up

No failures and accuaracy was good. Loaded another 140 rnds @ the 5.5 grn load for a range trip next week.

[rm1911]

Common 9mm load recipe with xtreme bullets

Common 9mm recipes:

Most fast burning, low volume powders work well in 9mm. My all time favorite is AA#5 which apparently has a primary ingredient of unobtanium. I recently discovered power pistol and love it. Also finding some was helpful too.

5.8-6 grains of #5 with a 115-124 plated. 5.5-5.8 PP with the same. Really shoots great in my sig.

Other popular powders include unique, red dot, and others similar. Right now it's more a matter of finding something that works and developing a load for it.

[omalley72]

I have loaded a trial, actually a first time reloading venture using CFE pistol for 9mm right at the data from Hodgdon website.

xtreme 115 grn plated RN
30 rnds @ 5.3 grns and 30 rnds @ 5.5 grns
OAL @ 1.130 +/- .002
light taper crimp @ .375 +/- .002
brass was range pick-up

No failures and accuaracy was good. Loaded another 140 rnds @ the 5.5 grn load for a range trip next week.

I'd be interested to hear how that turned out. I just picked up some CFE and used the LRN data from Hodgdon. I ran mine at 5.1grns. I don't have a way of measuring velocity and didn't want to go near max loads.

[shoebox56]

Huh I've been using 1.140 OAL. 9mm 115 gn Xtreme RN.

AA#7 from 7.0 - 7.5 depending on the gun. No issues.

[maxx03]

SPR GDHP=speer gold dot hollow point.

[Gh0sT]

I have load data for CZs as of late PM to inquire.

[crosskonaftw]

Just checking back in now that i've shot this combination for a while.. the load I have developed that works all day every day is as follows:

1.10" OAL
5.25 gr CFE powder
115 gr plated xtreme round nose

[abnormal]

CFE Pistol Recipe

New here so please don't slam too hard. Just posting information I can't seem to find anywhere and thought it would benefit someone else.

I came across 6# of Hodgdon CFE Pistol recently for gouging prices but was just about out of Bullseye so I snagged it all. I figured it was Hodgdon so it couldn't be too bad. CFE was new so why not try it. Bullseye is priced so high up there that it's just not cost effective to use it for reloading. It brings the cost per round higher than new which is removes from a good part of the reasons to reload your own.

I made up some 9mm loads from their load data, which didn't have the bullet type I needed so figured it would be good to stay somewhere in the range of their low/high on both bullet types LRN (Lead Round Nose) and SPR GDHP (Spear Gold Dot Hollow Point).

Polished range brass (I spend a lot of time with my brass - ultrasonic for about an hour per 200 (with vinegar/salt/dishwashing detergent/water mix), walnut shells with NuFinush at 6 hours per batch.

I use X-Treme, 115 grn, RN (copper plated) and 115 grn HP (hollow point). I also used Berry's at one time but they are more expensive than X-Treme and the difference is minimal except for price. The folks at X-Treme are top shelf too.

Here are my results:

9mm Luger, Beretta 92FS
115 grn FMJ RN (X-Treme)
5.2 grn Hodgdon CFE Pistol
COAL 1.110 in. with very slight factory crimp
CCI 500 Primer

Velocity (Ft. per Sec)
Total Round Count: 50
Average: 1060
Low: 1012
High: 1060

I made up 2 more batches (50 rounds per batch) at 5.4 grns and 5.6 grns each and will test them next chance I get to go shoot. I fear the 5.6 may be a little hot but will know more after I shoot 1-2 rounds. Hodgdon recommends 5.9 max on the GDHP so this may be the right load for the FMJ RN that I'm using. 5.2 grns is light though, INHO. The 9mm should be at 1100 and 1180 ft. per second, also IMHO. Anything hotter would start to overload things and anything less than 800 ft. per second could get you a squibb and or poor accuracy - I've had two of squibb rounds with new ammo and you really don't want to get those without knowing it. You can lose your gun and or part or all of your hand. I was being observant of each shot when I noticed one didn't feel right. When the next round wouldn't chamber after that shot I started to investigate why. Very lucky on that one. The second one was obvious that not enough powder was in the casing and the bullet went about 1/2 way down the tube. Had I shot behind that I would be typing this with one hand. Both rounds were new from Federal off the shelf at Cabela's. I blame neither party because I know this can happen when ammunition production is at the stress levels it was when I bought the stuff. I no longer buy any manufactured ammo since my loads are more in my control.

[Slixxster]

Since pistol powder is hard to get, seems like CFE Pistol is more available, I did some test loads couple weeks ago and using the same data from Hodgdon 9mm LRN. Chrongraph results below.

Firearm - M&P Shield 9mm
Xtreme 115gr RN
Powder - CFE Pistol
OAL - 1.125

5.0gr @ 989fps
5.2gr @ 1036fps
5.5gr @ 1089fps
5.8gr @ 1111fps
6.0gr @ 1126fps
6.2gr @ 1155fps

[kryan]

Slix

Based on your data which would you load for your "stock"
Say you wanted to load up 1,000 rounds?
Kevin

[samcam13]

124 gr xtreme over 4.3 of red dot. right around 1000 fps out of M&P shield. I like red dot as it is so fluffy it takes up most of the case, impossible to double charge.

[Slixxster]

I've already loaded my 1000rds at 5.8gr.