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  • Jason_805
    Junior Member
    • May 2014
    • 21

    De-Priming LC .308 Brass Problem & Question

    On Some Of the LC Brass I've Been Re-Sizing The Sides Of the Primer Get Stuck In the Primer Pocket. Is there A Easy Way to Pop it Out Without Wasting the Primer Pocket. Thanks!
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  • #2
    J-cat
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2005
    • 6626

    Go slow.

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    • #3
      Bainter1212
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2013
      • 5936

      Yep slow and steady.

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      • #4
        Rock6.3
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2431

        Are you perhaps seeing the crimp that holds the primer in place on surplus ammo?

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        • #5
          baih777
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2011
          • 5680

          edited
          Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
          I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
          I'm Back.

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          • #6
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19642

            For once fired surplus with the roll crimp on the primer pocket-

            Heavy duty decapping pin... slow steady pressure....

            There is a video showing how to deprime berdan brass ammo for reloading where they fill the case with water and then hammer in a punch to hydraulically punch out the primer...

            I do not see the need to do that for boxer primer ammo, but it should work...



            Last edited by hermosabeach; 05-11-2014, 6:52 PM.
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #7
              Heretodaygonetomorrow
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 582

              U.S. Military brass have the primer crimped in place after installation to prevent primers from backing out.

              Sounds like you have not been removing the crimp from the brass before trying to insert a new primer.

              When reloading U.S. Military brass the first time, the crimp must be removed to allow normal primer installation after removing the expended primer.

              The two methods for removing the crimp are swaging the primer pocket with a tool like the Dillon Super Swage, OR cutting the crimp (tools available from different vendors).

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              • #8
                J-cat
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2005
                • 6626

                Or maybe be tore the bottom of the primer cup. I've had this happen on 9mm brass that was not crimped.

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                • #9
                  74c5
                  Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 323

                  Lee universal deprimer. Process the entire lot then move on to cleaning, crimp removal (easier to hold the case when it is clean) and then sizing.

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                  • #10
                    12yak
                    Member
                    • Aug 2013
                    • 158

                    Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
                    ...The two methods for removing the crimp are swaging the primer pocket with a tool like the Dillon Super Swage...
                    Just to thread-jack a wee bit...
                    I just got a Super Swage and noticed in the instructions that it's configured for .223 (which is why I got it), and optional parts for .30, 38, 9mm, and .45 which took by surprise at first until I thought about mil ammo. Anyway, sometimes the crimps are a little hard to spot after a few hundred cases and the following question came to mind. Are there only a limited number of brands that have crimps so that I can just focus on head-stamps or do all manufacturers make some of their ammo with crimps? For example... can I just skip right by WIN headstamps? If not all manufacturers, which are the known crimpers? TIA!

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                    • #11
                      Enfield47
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 6385

                      Originally posted by 12yak
                      Just to thread-jack a wee bit...
                      I just got a Super Swage and noticed in the instructions that it's configured for .223 (which is why I got it), and optional parts for .30, 38, 9mm, and .45 which took by surprise at first until I thought about mil ammo. Anyway, sometimes the crimps are a little hard to spot after a few hundred cases and the following question came to mind. Are there only a limited number of brands that have crimps so that I can just focus on head-stamps or do all manufacturers make some of their ammo with crimps? For example... can I just skip right by WIN headstamps? If not all manufacturers, which are the known crimpers? TIA!
                      Look for the NATO cross, if you see it, it's probably crimped. For .223 and .308, I think it's best to assume all cases have a crimp and get swaged.

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                      • #12
                        hermosabeach
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 19642

                        Mil Spec rifle ammo has the crimp or staking of some sort.

                        So if you have Win brass from a commercial ammo source, it should not have a crimp.

                        Some brass will have a much more noticeable crimp.... Typically noticed by a bent decapping pin.... or the pressure to remove the primer...
                        Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                        Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                        Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                        Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                        (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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                        • #13
                          Jason_805
                          Junior Member
                          • May 2014
                          • 21

                          Originally posted by Heretodaygonetomorrow
                          U.S. Military brass have the primer crimped in place after installation to prevent primers from backing out.

                          Sounds like you have not been removing the crimp from the brass before trying to insert a new primer.

                          When reloading U.S. Military brass the first time, the crimp must be removed to allow normal primer installation after removing the expended primer.

                          The two methods for removing the crimp are swaging the primer pocket with a tool like the Dillon Super Swage, OR cutting the crimp (tools available from different vendors).
                          I purchased all the brass off gun broker once fired. On some of the cases after depriming them leave the sides of the primer stuck inside the primer pocket. Is the case useless at this point. The die didn't remove all of the primer. I just thought it was weird. I just tossed those cases to the side.
                          "I Know! That You Know! That I know! That You Know Nothing!"

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                          • #14
                            Jason_805
                            Junior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 21

                            Originally posted by J-cat
                            Or maybe be tore the bottom of the primer cup. I've had this happen on 9mm brass that was not crimped.
                            That's exactly what happened. Thanks for wording that for me. Haha
                            "I Know! That You Know! That I know! That You Know Nothing!"

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                            • #15
                              Jason_805
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 21

                              Originally posted by Rock6.3
                              Are you perhaps seeing the crimp that holds the primer in place on surplus ammo?
                              No its the crimp and the sides of the Primer. I ripped out the end of the primer.
                              "I Know! That You Know! That I know! That You Know Nothing!"

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