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  • Synergy
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2008
    • 14303

    Wolf SR Primers are junk!

    I picked up a grand of Wolf SRP at the last gun show, I have read many posts saying guys are happy with their performance. I don't recall the sizes reviewed. I loaded up about 300 .223 with 26.0 of H335 and 62g FMJ in some once fired PA-RH, couple fired, LC back to the 70's some FC and other various brass.

    Out of around a hundred fired, 10-15 primers blew out of the pocket, 3 times the loose primer fell into the lower and jammed the fire control.

    I wont be using Wolf again, its not worth the couple bucks in savings.
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    ocabj
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2005
    • 7924

    26.0gr H335 with a 62gr bullet is way hot and from what I can infer, is way overpressure, even compared to USGI M855.

    If you pull M855, they only use about 25.0gr give or take of WCC 844 or 846, which has a similar burn rate to H335, and as far as 5.56 NATO is concerned, is already pretty hot stuff.

    I'm more inclined to blame your load, and not the primers.

    Added: If you check the Hodgdon website, 25.0gr of H335 and a 63gr bullet is listed as max load for .223 Remington.

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    • #3
      Gunsrruss
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1488

      I have to agree with OCABJ...

      My max load using 844 H335 was 25gr for 62gr bullet. Any more than that and the primer pocket starts to deform. The 846 powder has the same burn rate as BLC-2. Your loads were to heavy.
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      • #4
        Pthfndr
        In Memoriam
        • Oct 2005
        • 3691

        Didn't you read the part in the reloading manual where it says when changing any of your components to back off your load and work back up?

        Sounds like a Reloader issue, not a reloading component issue.
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        • #5
          JeffM
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 4359

          Glad to hear it's an issue with the nut behind the trigger, cause I just purchases a few K and was worried for a second.

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          • #6
            American_pride
            Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 235

            I guess Dave Tubb was lying about the Russian primers in an attempt to blow up guns I am sorry you had problems. Im sure that some one in your area will take those primers off your hands for $35 for the 700 you have left
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            • #7
              Fjold
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2005
              • 22930

              Hodgdon says that the max load using H335 for the lighter 60 grain bullet is:

              Maximum load for 60 GR. HDY V-MAX is 24.0 grains of H335 for 3075 fps and 50,600 CUP

              Maximum load for 63 GR. HDY V-MAX is 25.0 grains of H335 for 3051 fps and 50,000 CUP
              Last edited by Fjold; 08-12-2008, 7:16 AM.
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              • #8
                Corbin Dallas
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                • May 2006
                • 6192

                Holy crap! 26g of H355 behind a 62g 224????



                You're lucky it only blew the primer out!!!
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                • #9
                  rksimple
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6257

                  Primers were fine. Reloading practices need to improve. Its OK. We all learn the lessons over time. Just chalk it up as a learning experience.

                  The wolf SR primers are pretty good. The "magnum" SR primers they have aren't really magnum. They're just have a harder cup and are made for use in semis like the AR. However, I haven't had any issues with the standard ones in my AR's. YMMV.
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                  • #10
                    lazuris
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 588

                    Hell i use 26g varget with my 62g loads. Shoots great all day long no over pressure signs at all. Max is 26.5g

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                    • #11
                      ocabj
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 7924

                      Originally posted by lazuris
                      Hell i use 26g varget with my 62g loads. Shoots great all day long no over pressure signs at all. Max is 26.5g
                      That's Varget. The OP is using H335. Varget and H335 are completely different.

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                      • #12
                        5968
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 3557

                        Originally posted by lazuris
                        Hell i use 26g varget with my 62g loads. Shoots great all day long no over pressure signs at all. Max is 26.5g
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                        • #13
                          BigMac
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1117

                          Well, welcome to reloading.
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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20816

                            to the origional poster is you barrel a 16 inch ? just taking a survey ive been seeing that about 90% of the people with ar-15 problems are not using the standard length barrel

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                            • #15
                              Synergy
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • May 2008
                              • 14303

                              Originally posted by bohoki
                              to the origional poster is you barrel a 16 inch ? just taking a survey ive been seeing that about 90% of the people with ar-15 problems are not using the standard length barrel
                              Yes its a 16. I am new into rifle reloading and this is a learning curve. I used data from a reputable program and it was too hot, fortunately, nothing critical happened. I will pull the remaining loads and start over at a lower G and report back on the primers.
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