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  • CGK60
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 594

    9X18

    Anyone reload for the 9x18.
  • #2
    CSACANNONEER
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    • Dec 2006
    • 44094

    We had a student make some brass from 9mm luger and load a box worth today at the LA County Chapter Reloading Club Clinic. So, yea, there are some here who load it. Bumslie was the instructor who helped the student and walked him through it.
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    • #3
      sjb269
      Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 297

      No I don't
      I have a bunch of 9 x 18 brass, I just don't know what to do with it?
      Buy a Makarov???

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      • #4
        XDRoX
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4420

        Sometimes I do by accident...
        Chris
        <----Rimfire Addict


        Originally posted by Oceanbob
        Get a DILLON...

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        • #5
          Bumslie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2011
          • 5358

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          We had a student make some brass from 9mm luger and load a box worth today at the LA County Chapter Reloading Club Clinic. So, yea, there are some here who load it. Bumslie was the instructor who helped the student and walked him through it.
          Yes. Hi.

          What questions do you have?
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          • #6
            ptmn
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 789

            Bumslie, I have a question for you regarding 9x18. Does the cut down 9 Luger brass have a lot of impact on powder capacity compared to factory 9x18 brass?

            I bought some Starline 9x18 brass and I'm wondering if it was a mistake. Is cut down 9 Luger brass just as good?

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            • #7
              Bumslie
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Oct 2011
              • 5358

              Originally posted by ptmn
              Bumslie, I have a question for you regarding 9x18. Does the cut down 9 Luger brass have a lot of impact on powder capacity compared to factory 9x18 brass?

              I bought some Starline 9x18 brass and I'm wondering if it was a mistake. Is cut down 9 Luger brass just as good?
              A lot of impact? Not in my experience. If I recall correctly, 9mm Luger is a tad thicker thicker than makarov, but it hasn't made any impact, to me anyway, converting and shooting the brass.

              Why would buying starline brass be bad? In reality it's a good thing, because the headstamps are marked with the proper 9x18 markings. With 9mm Luger, you need to mark the case somehow to identify that's the brass you shortened. I sharpie in the extractor grove, and mark across the headstamp to make it easy to tell which is the brass that I converted into makarov brass. I would hate for any reloader to pick up the brass that I converted without knowing it's not really 9mm Luger .



              You're using such small amounts of powder anyway ~3 grains, you won't be able to tell that there is difference.

              Personally, If I had the spare cash, I would just buy makarov brass to save myself the headache of trimming and marking each one. I have 27lb cat litter tub practically full of military 9mm brass that I recieved for free, which is the only reason why I convert it.

              Posted from my phone, via tapatalk. Please ignore any gross grammar or spelling errors.
              Last edited by Bumslie; 03-30-2014, 8:58 PM.
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              Originally posted by ivanimal
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              Originally posted by Kestryll
              OP you are an uninformed tool.
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              • #8
                ptmn
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 789

                Bumslie, thanks for the info. Now I don't feel as bad about shelling out for 1000 Starline cases. Thought I wasted cash, buying cases that can be made inexpensively and just as good...until you mentioned the significance of the Headstamps. I feel a lot better now

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                • #9
                  Bumslie
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 5358

                  You're welcome. I use Missouri bullet co 93gr lead projectiles to fire out of my East German makarov. They work great. Have fun reloading.
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                  Originally posted by ivanimal
                  I love you! (some Homo)
                  Originally posted by ivanimal
                  I am a Gay muslim sometimes.
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  OP you are an uninformed tool.
                  Go Broncos!
                  Go Kings Go!

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                  • #10
                    BruinGuy
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1456

                    I have a question for you Bumslie!

                    Since I wasn't able to observe your process, do you trim, size, and trim again if necessary, or do you size and then trim (assuming the die doesn't crush the case mouth)?
                    Last edited by BruinGuy; 03-31-2014, 8:08 AM.
                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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                    • #11
                      Bumslie
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 5358

                      1. Take fired 9mm cases, run them into 9mm makarov expanding/flaring die first. Bell the crap out of them. You want to make the case as close to true straight wall as possible. You're going to trim 1mm off anyway, so extreme flaring should not cause any worry to the integrity of the brass.

                      2. Resize cases in 9mm makarov die. Now they are near perfect straight wall cases.

                      3. Trim cases. We used a Forster trimmer, and a lee ball cutter with trim length gague. Cases should be ~ .708 max case length is .714.

                      Don't forget to chamfer and debur.

                      4. You can either send these through the sizing die again, or move straight to flaring. I've done both, but usually resize again just to keep my process the same if I wasn't converting cases.

                      We used Lead 93gr Missouri bullet. OAL .970

                      Ammosmith does a good video on YOUTUBE about it. Along with a kid named ericwallace87.
                      Last edited by Bumslie; 03-31-2014, 9:19 AM.
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                      Originally posted by ivanimal
                      I am a Gay muslim sometimes.
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      OP you are an uninformed tool.
                      Go Broncos!
                      Go Kings Go!

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                      • #12
                        BruinGuy
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 1456

                        Thanks Bumslie, I'm going to give this a try as soon as I can find enough bullets!
                        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                        Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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                        • #13
                          Bumslie
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 5358

                          Originally posted by BruinGuy
                          Thanks Bumslie, I'm going to give this a try as soon as I can find enough bullets!

                          This is what we loaded with


                          I'll PM you with the clubs coupon code
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                          WARNING: This post may contain material offensive to those who lack wit, humor, and common sense. Some overly sensitive "men" will be offended.
                          Originally posted by ivanimal
                          I love you! (some Homo)
                          Originally posted by ivanimal
                          I am a Gay muslim sometimes.
                          Originally posted by Kestryll
                          OP you are an uninformed tool.
                          Go Broncos!
                          Go Kings Go!

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                          • #14
                            AK4me
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1281

                            Originally posted by Bumslie
                            http://www.missouribullet.com/detail...ary=&keywords=
                            This is what we loaded with


                            I'll PM you with the clubs coupon code
                            Could you send me that code too? And thanks again for the lesson. Ill be buying some Makarov dies soon.


                            sent from my phone
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                            • #15
                              Bumslie
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 5358

                              Pm sent. Your welcome! Let me know how they shoot.
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                              Originally posted by ivanimal
                              I love you! (some Homo)
                              Originally posted by ivanimal
                              I am a Gay muslim sometimes.
                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              OP you are an uninformed tool.
                              Go Broncos!
                              Go Kings Go!

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