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  • m2hbvic
    Member
    • Nov 2002
    • 151

    Bullet/Primer Sealant???

    Anyone know what various brands of bullet and primer sealants are available on the market, and who sells them???

    Anyone know what the military ammo bullets and primers are sealed with???
    THANKS,
    Vic
  • #2
    moulton
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 2788

    Originally posted by m2hbvic
    Anyone know what various brands of bullet and primer sealants are available on the market, and who sells them???

    Anyone know what the military ammo bullets and primers are sealed with???
    THANKS,
    Vic
    I think Pakistani and Indian ammo is sealed with asphalt
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    • #3
      Turbinator
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      • Oct 2005
      • 11930

      My understanding is that normally sealant isn't really necessary. Is there a particular purpose for you sealing your primers? Normally the press fit in itself will keep out basic moisture.

      Turby

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      • #4
        CSACANNONEER
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        • Dec 2006
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        Why do you want to use sealant? You could probably use fingernail polish to seal primers.
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        • #5
          scfast
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 691

          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          Why do you want to use sealant? You could probably use fingernail polish to seal primers.
          Just what i was going to post +1 use fingernail polish
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          • #6
            sorensen440
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2007
            • 8611

            fingernail polish works great and is cheap
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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
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              Originally posted by sorensen440
              fingernail polish works great and is cheap
              and, it comes in a variety of pretty colors. Seriously, you can use different colors to diferentiate between diferent loads or to track your brass useage.
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              • #8
                rayra
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                • Mar 2006
                • 1747

                Isn't needed, unless you intend to bury your ammo in a bog, or submerge it for long periods.

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                • #9
                  sorensen440
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 8611

                  Originally posted by rayra
                  Isn't needed, unless you intend to bury your ammo in a bog, or submerge it for long periods.
                  I like it just knowing that long term moisture wont get in and either foul or make the powder less effective
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                  • #10
                    m2hbvic
                    Member
                    • Nov 2002
                    • 151

                    Okay. The reason I want to use sealant on my reloaded ammo is because I've got a s**tload of once-fired brass in various calibers that I've been saving since about 1980 and, given the current and future political/anti-gun climate, I figure I might as well start buying a s**tload of primers/powder/bullets in bulk and start reloading all of my saved up brass and storing it for all my future years of shooting ahead of me, when all reloading components will probably be banned because some idiot Democrats in the forthcoming years will have said that reloaded ammo is the reason why crime is continuing to rise! Yeah, right! Kitchen knives will be banned soon after. Or else the Department of Homeland Security will have banned ammo reloading and say it's a danger to all of us, even though we are not terrorists to ourselves. I'm reminded of things like this when I go through the TSA security screening at airports. Before 9-11, you, me, our parents, sisters and brothers, grandparents, etc. all looked American, spoke English, and we trusted each other. Now, after 9-11, instantly we are all not trusted, and we are all treated as possible terrorists when we go through the airport security screenings! And we are all still the same Americans that we were before 9-11, except our government doesn't trust us anymore, even if we were an 80 year old grandmother or grandfather and looked like an American and spoke perfect English with a southern accent! Yes Mr. TSA man,.............here's my sharp toenail scissors and knitting needles that I'm turning in (aka "forfeiting") to you so that I can get on my plane.

                    Might as well start stockpiling the reloading stuff now, while it's available and still "cheap" to buy. Same thing goes for factory and military surplus ammo. Buy it now,................because you won't be able to get it later!

                    Look back in history at what firearms/ammo a person was able to buy with little or no restrictions, like Class 3 firearms, AW's, tracer/incendiary ammo, etc. The pre-1968 GCA days really were "the good old days" of firearms. Can you imagine what it was like to be able to order a brand new Thompson submachinegun from your local hardware store back in the 1920s and 1930s, and you could open carry it in public and nobody ever thought anything odd about it??? Or even order pistols and rifles by mailorder and have them delivered by mail to your house, with no paperwork to fill out! Times sure have changed.
                    Vic
                    Last edited by m2hbvic; 08-10-2008, 12:56 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Turbinator
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 11930

                      "Cheap" is relative. Reloading components (bullets in particular) right now are priced at an all time high. No idea if they'll ever go down - Berry's has been charging a "lead surcharge" for the past 5 years or so, and it's only gone up, not down. If we presume prices will continue to go up, then yes, now is the time to buy, not tomorrow. Certainly cannot fault you for being worried about future availability - we all should be concerned. Good luck!

                      Turby

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                      • #12
                        30Cal
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1487

                        Originally posted by sorensen440
                        I like it just knowing that long term moisture wont get in and either foul or make the powder less effective
                        No sealant is necessary if you're only concerned with moisture. Sealant is for ammo that might be submerged (under pressure).

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                        • #13
                          fathead
                          Junior Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 56

                          I remember seeing some primer sealant in the CABELAS shooting catalog...you might try looking there.

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                          • #14
                            m2hbvic
                            Member
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 151

                            I was always under the assumption that the military ammo was sealed both at the bullet and primer to actually make them sort of hermetically sealed from air as well as moisture/humidity, over the long term storage. Heck, our troops over in Iraq/Afghanistan are still using .50 BMG ammo in M2HBs and Barrett .50 rifles that we've had stockpiled since WWII and the Korean War back when the stuff was manufactured, and it still shoots just fine because it was sealed ammo that was correctly stored over all these years.

                            I notice that when I store my normal reloads (without using any sealant at all) in military ammo cans over a few months time, when I open the can I can actually smell the odor of the gunpowder that I had used to reload that ammo with! I'm figuring that the chemicals in the powder in the ammo are actually off-gassing, evaporating, or whatever and actually escaping past the metal-to-metal "seal" where the bullet and primer is seated. I've never noticed any kind of powder odor like that when I open up an ammo can of military ammo with sealed bullets/primers, other than that good old military surplus ammo can smell or the smell of the packaging materials. Gotta be some validity to that.

                            What do you guys think???
                            Vic
                            Last edited by m2hbvic; 08-10-2008, 2:28 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Sunwolf
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2008
                              • 7445

                              Still shooting

                              Norma 5.56x45 that I bought in 1970,no sealant on the primer or the neck.

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