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  • capitol
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2503

    Progressive Press

    Im in the market for a progressive press and after doing some research I would like a press with these features.

    Case Feeder
    Auto-Indexing
    Powder dispenser/micrometer adjustments, that works with Varget

    So far I'm looking at Dillon XL650, Hornady LNL AP, and RCBS PRO 2000.

    One major concern is the powder dispenser on these presses. Do any of them do well with Varget?
    Last edited by capitol; 08-07-2008, 5:12 PM.
  • #2
    jandmtv
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2007
    • 5800

    I think the XL650 is your best bet.

    as for Varget, no powder measure is going to dispense Varget as accurate as a ball powder, its just not possible.

    But there is a website that sells a micrometer addon for the Dillon powder measure, the price isnt that bad either, but I cant remember which website it is. Im sure someone will jump in on this.

    EDIT: found the company, they also sell a larger powder hopper tube. here are the links

    micrometer kit http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/T1231
    larger powder hopper tube http://www.uniquetek.com/site/696296/product/T1277
    Last edited by jandmtv; 08-07-2008, 5:25 PM.
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    • #3
      slicksuper90
      Junior Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 5

      yeah, Dillon's the tried and true. I've never had metering problems with ANYTHING out my measures on my square deal (blast from the past!) 650, 0r 1050. ball, extruded...didn't matter

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      • #4
        anyracoon
        Veteran Member
        • May 2006
        • 3705

        When I load varget and other stick powders on my Dillons I use a RCBS powder measure with micrometer adjuster and their case activated linkage. Works great!!!!!! Best of both worlds.

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        • #5
          Blacktail 8541
          Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 1567

          With your requirement, the RCBS is out based on the case feeder.
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          • #6
            Corbin Dallas
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            • May 2006
            • 6452

            Dillon 650XL is what you need.
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            • #7
              ciscosixgun
              Member
              • May 2008
              • 372

              My Dillon powder measurer seems to meter Varget just fine. It varies maybe one tenth of a grain. I would go with the Dillon 650.

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              • #8
                sorensen440
                Calguns Addict
                • Mar 2007
                • 8612

                Were very pleased with our dillon
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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
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                  • Jan 2006
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                  • #10
                    capitol
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2503

                    Whoa, looks like everyone likes Dillon. A couple questions.

                    How long does it take to switch calibers?

                    Anyone have trouble with the auto indexing on the 650?

                    Can you use RCBS or Redding dies?

                    What else should I order with a 650?

                    Thanks for the info fellas

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                    • #11
                      TonyM
                      In Memoriam
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3071

                      Originally posted by capitol
                      Whoa, looks like everyone likes Dillon. A couple questions.

                      How long does it take to switch calibers?
                      takes me ~10 minutes for a full conversion, including getting a step ladder for the casefeeder plate.

                      Originally posted by capitol
                      Anyone have trouble with the auto indexing on the 650?
                      Nope.

                      Originally posted by capitol
                      Can you use RCBS or Redding dies?
                      All standard dies work in the 650, 550, and 1050.

                      Originally posted by capitol
                      What else should I order with a 650?

                      Thanks for the info fellas
                      That is up to you, but I went nuts when I got mine. I got 4 or 5 caliber conversions with tool heads and stands right off the top, along with the RF-100 primer filler, aluminum roller handle, casefeeder, more primer tubes, and the strong mount. Make sure you get a minimum of the casefeeder, more primer tubes, and I like the powder check die.
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                      Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                      Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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                      • #12
                        GW
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • May 2004
                        • 16078

                        Yep, Go with the 650
                        BUT...the 650 without the casefeeder is pointless
                        Get LOTS of primer tubes. Having to stop what you're doing to refill tubes is a real drag on production so have lots of them ready to go.
                        Powder check is nice to have.
                        I also recommend the full quick-change conversion kit including the tool-head and powder measure That way, you only have to set the thing up once.
                        Use what ever standard dies you like.

                        Have fun
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                        • #13
                          ivanimal
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 14365

                          20 minutes tops to change over a little longer to dial it in for precision.
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                          • #14
                            TonyM
                            In Memoriam
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 3071

                            Yeah, I should clarify, my 10 minute time is due to having extra toolheads with powder measures and dies attached. Once I drop the toolhead in and change the other parts for the caliber, I'm ready to go with the dies still locked down.
                            Disenfranchised NRA Benefactor Life Member.

                            Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                            Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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                            • #15
                              anyracoon
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2006
                              • 3705

                              Strong mount, roller handle(not the plastic one & Bullet tray!

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