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  • boxtype1
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 1338

    What did I do wrong :(

    First time reloading 6.8 SPC, been reloading 223s,308s,270s. But this time using FC marked brass and Hornady sizing dies/seater. When seating using Barnes MPG 85gr flat base, the brass sems like to have buckled from the shoulder area as shown on the pics. Reloaded 50 rounds and 10 came out like this. The other 40 looks decent.
    What could I have done wrong?
    Can I still run this through the sizer and reuse?


    Thanks for your input.
    Last edited by boxtype1; 09-04-2018, 12:44 PM.
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  • #2
    Altahick
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2006
    • 2170

    looks like you have to much crimp. back your seating die out a little.
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    • #3
      Bastard
      • Jul 2009
      • 2209

      and adjust your expanding die - or start using one

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      • #4
        boxtype1
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 1338

        can i still safely resize this?
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        • #5
          Ninask
          Banned
          • Aug 2013
          • 1029

          Originally posted by Altahick
          looks like you have to much crimp. back your seating die out a little.
          This
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          • #6
            five.five-six
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2006
            • 34894

            Originally posted by boxtype1
            can i still safely resize this?
            No, that brass is done for, It's a lot too much crimp.

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            • #7
              damndave
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2008
              • 10858

              Originally posted by boxtype1
              can i still safely resize this?
              It's done for.

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              • #8
                Kmai24
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 1220

                It also could be that your seater die is too far down?..try backing it out then adjust the seating height from there.

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                • #9
                  FLIGHT762
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3072

                  Originally posted by Altahick
                  looks like you have to much crimp. back your seating die out a little.
                  Originally posted by Ninask
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                  This is very like this is the culprit. You said you're using a Hornady seating die. Have you ever used a Hornady seating die before?

                  Read the instructions for the Hornady seating die again and follow the instructions. The Hornady seating die is different than other MFG. seating dies and has to be backed off more than others or else you will crush shoulders as you did.

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                  • #10
                    boxtype1
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 1338

                    Yes first time with Hornady dies. Most dies I have are RCBS.
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                    • #11
                      russt
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1039

                      raise press to top of stroke, screw die in until it touches shellholder then back it out 1 turn, now seat your bullet adjusting seating depth with turning seater plug. more than likely you wont crush shoulders anymore

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                      • #12
                        beerman
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 5087

                        Too much crimp maybe ,but your cases might be too long..check the length

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                        • #13
                          LynnJr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7958

                          Make sure you put a nice chamfer on the neck of your case as well.The jackets on these bullets is tougher than most and being a flat-based bullet you don't have the boattail to iron out the necks.
                          Flat base bullets get a pressure ring from the manufacturing process which makes them thicker at the base than anywhere else.The large manufacturers roll this slight bulge away to make there bullets very uniform while the boutique bullet makers leave it in place.
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                          • #14
                            Ferrum
                            Janitors Mop
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 4431

                            Originally posted by Kmai24
                            It also could be that your seater die is too far down?..try backing it out then adjust the seating height from there.

                            I agree with this... I remember getting lazy doing .308 and having this happen. Re-set up my die and it was good to go.

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                            • #15
                              gunboat
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3288

                              IMO -- you are crimping before bullet is fully seated -
                              Adjust your dies to fully seat the bullet used, then re adjust to crimp -
                              Perhaps you are seating to an overall length rather than the bullet ogive --
                              Your dies may be the style that uses the seating bushing to crimp rather than the die body.

                              The brass is possibly still usable but probably not worth the effort to salvage --
                              It would require unloading, resizing and fireforming --

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