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  • G-Man WC
    In Memoriam
    • Oct 2005
    • 10991

    What is up with loading die lock ring set screws?

    In the past, they were made of steel with a small lead plug to prevent damage to the die threads.
    Then they changed them to brass "to prevent damage to the die threads".
    The past three sets of dies I have purchased, one Hornady and two RCBS, have brass set screws. They are about as hard as jello.
    It is not possible to screw them in tight enough to lock the ring. The wrench strips out the head of the set screw before it gets tight enough to prevent the lock ring from turning.
    Any one else having this problem?

    So I've replaced the locking rings on some of my reloading dies with
    the Hornady Lock Rings. My main reason is after finding a good load on my single stage it's a set it and forget it without having to reset each die for each use. Also I didn't like them scoring the threads on my dies.
    I wish Hornady would make the set screw's hex a little deeper. The Allen wrench seems to easily slips out.
    Has anyone found or replaced set screw with a deeper ones?
    I'm looking for suggestions as these screws seem to be hard to get tight
    or maybe I need a larger/better quality allen wrench. I know the screws don't need to be farmer tight, but having some issues snugging them up.
    -g
    If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
    -Samuel Adams
  • #2
    ShadowX
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 622

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    • #3
      G-Man WC
      In Memoriam
      • Oct 2005
      • 10991

      Last edited by G-Man WC; 03-10-2014, 11:42 PM.
      If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
      -Samuel Adams

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      • #4
        f4tweet
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 2022

        Put a shotgun pellet under the screw.

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        • #5
          damndave
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2008
          • 10858

          I think those are Lyman. I switched to those a while ago, but I prefer the Hornady rings because you can use a wrench to lock them in the press.

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          • #6
            gunboat
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 3288

            If the brass screw is not to your liking, replace ir with a steel screw and lead shot -
            Seems simple enough --

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            • #7
              Bastard
              • Jul 2009
              • 2209

              +1 on switching to the Hornady lock rings or at the very least a split ring design but you can just as easily strip out the head on the Hornady rings as well...

              I do like the look of that Sinclair ring, might have to try it.

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              • #8
                G-Man WC
                In Memoriam
                • Oct 2005
                • 10991

                Originally posted by f4tweet
                Put a shotgun pellet under the screw.
                The ring locks into itself and does not tighten on the threads of the die.
                So no SG pellet needed. I'm swapping out the standard rings for these to get away from this issue. Just having issues getting the new ring tight enough.
                -g
                Last edited by G-Man WC; 03-17-2014, 9:47 PM.
                If ever time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.
                -Samuel Adams

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                • #9
                  slopoke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 509

                  I just trim a piece of solder and insert that into the hole, same as using a lead pellet. I find that it's easier to strip the set screw hex hole, not the threads. Set screws are cheap and I have spares in my die boxes, just in case.
                  Last edited by slopoke; 03-17-2014, 3:51 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Spdjunkie
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1973

                    fwiw:

                    I replace all my lock rings with Lyman or Hornady, both have been GTG.

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