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Kind of a different Dillon 650 vs Hornady LNL thread. ADDED A QUESTION ABOUT THE 650

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  • MR_X
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    • Jul 2013
    • 424

    Kind of a different Dillon 650 vs Hornady LNL thread. ADDED A QUESTION ABOUT THE 650

    Looking into upgrading to one of this 2 press to load pistol rounds. My question is on regard of OAL. What are your variances between rounds with this 2 presses?

    Done a ton of reading on this 2 presses and I think I already have one picked out but what to see what you guys have to say about this specific question.

    Thanks
    Last edited by MR_X; 03-18-2014, 7:58 AM.
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    XDRoX
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    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    There is less press flex on a 650 than an LNL. Therefore more accurate OAL on the Dillon.
    That being said, the difference would be thousandths of an inch if that.
    Not a compelling reason to buy one press over the other IMO.

    Way too many other factors in deciding a press. OAL would be last on my list.

    IMO if you want to reload multiple calibers and cost is a concern then get the LNL. The Dillon is more expensive, period.
    If a case feeder is not needed then the LNL is also the press to get. The Dillon is awkward at best without a case feeder.

    But really OAL doesn't matter in the big scheme of things very much.
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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      MR_X
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      • Jul 2013
      • 424

      I know with a progressive press there are going to be variances on OAL but what is acceptable? Currently have it set to 1.250 and I get between 1.249-1.276 inches is that acceptable?
      Last edited by MR_X; 03-09-2014, 8:41 PM.

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        XDRoX
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        • Mar 2009
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        Yep. Perfectly fine. I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
        Chris
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        Originally posted by Oceanbob
        Get a DILLON...

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          MR_X
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          • Jul 2013
          • 424

          I guess my OCD is kicking my ***

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            XDRoX
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            • Mar 2009
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            Better you than me
            Chris
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            Originally posted by Oceanbob
            Get a DILLON...

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            • #7
              Dark Mod
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              • Feb 2011
              • 4284

              The differences in bullet ogive will probably cause more OAL variation than the press flexing will. I've never even bothered to measure the deviation because its so small as not to matter. I'm not a rifle match shooter though so take it for what it's worth

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                XDRoX
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                • Mar 2009
                • 4420

                Honestly, bullet consistency is first.
                Then powder type, then powder measure.
                All the other stuff is just whip cream and cherries.
                Chris
                <----Rimfire Addict


                Originally posted by Oceanbob
                Get a DILLON...

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                  Rwnielsen
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 639

                  I would say tgst .026" over is too much variance unless you're running a single round through and it's shell plate flex. I get +/- .005"
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                    Waldog
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                    • May 2007
                    • 528

                    Dillion owners are gonna say, "buy blue". Hornady owners are gonna say, "buy red". The only way you are going to answer your question is to test each press yourself. I DO KNOW that you will get different OAL's depending whether or not you have a case in each station. BIG difference on BOTH PRESSES.

                    If your loading plinking/blasting 223 ammo, it's not going to make a difference. If your loading 1000 yard LONG range loads. It will make a big difference. All my precision rifle ammo is loaded on a single stage press
                    Last edited by Waldog; 03-12-2014, 8:36 PM.

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                      Rwnielsen
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                      • Oct 2009
                      • 639

                      Or so....
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                        dreyna14
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1594

                        If OAL is the deal breaker for you, get a single stage. If you just want to make good ammo for little $, either press will give you years of enjoyment.

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                          MR_X
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                          • Jul 2013
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                          Originally posted by Waldog
                          Dillion owners are gonna say, "buy blue". Hornady owners are gonna say, "buy red". The only way you are going to answer your question is to test each press yourself. I DO KNOW that you will get different OAL's depending whether or not you have a case in each station. BIG difference on BOTH PRESSES.

                          If your loading plinking/blasting 223 ammo, it's not going to make a difference. If your loading 1000 yard LONG range loads. It will make a bid difference. All my precision rifle ammo is loaded on a single stage press
                          I load my rifle ammo on a Lee classic.
                          Originally posted by dreyna14
                          If OAL is the deal breaker for you, get a single stage. If you just want to make good ammo for little $, either press will give you years of enjoyment.
                          It isn't really a deal breaker, just wanted to see if those 2 presses will still give me the same variations that I'm getting now out of my Loadmaster. Apparently it is okay so no need to "upgrade".

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                            damndave
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2008
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                            Originally posted by MR_X
                            I know with a progressive press there are going to be variances on OAL but what is acceptable? Currently have it set to 1.250 and I get between 1.249-1.276 inches is that acceptable?


                            Thats the bullet rather than seating depth.

                            Either press will do you fine. I have owned both and I personally prefer the XL650, but it is a lot more expensive. My problems with the LNL AP is from the cases canting in stations 1 & 5. I had a big write up about it on here maybe 2 years ago.

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                              MR_X
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                              • Jul 2013
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                              I was going to go with the LNL because I like the powder drop better and no tool head design but if the variances I'm getting now is acceptable, I'm just going to keep the Loadmaster.

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