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  • kielbasavw
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1611

    has anyone seized brass in carbide die?

    Because I managed to do it, 3 times actually.

    9mm, very lightly used 70s rcbs carbide sizer.
    I sized about 200 pcs my first time without issue, which was shot out of my own p7m8.
    Then went through a batch of range pickups that I bought off a member here, tumbled, and started sizing/de prime.
    first time was without lube, took out de capping pin, and was able to use a punch and hammer to knock it out. Second and third time was with lubing every few or so.

    Dies and brass were clean, unsure what caused it. The 3 pcs of brass were all different head stamps.
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    stevec223
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1620

    I dont think rcbs was making carbide dies in the 70's... Think they came out in the late 90's or later ???... Anyway i give my 9mm brass,,, after tumbling ,,, a few blasts of hornady one shot while mixing it up... Havent had anything close to a stuck case... I have resized a few without lube and can hardly tell the difference between lubed and unlubed with a carbide die... In any pistol caliber... You wouldnt happen to be trying to resize the bulged "glock" brass would you ??? I've heard that takes a whole different sizing process... Couple things to check out anyway... Cheers ..

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    • #3
      J-cat
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2005
      • 6626

      It's pretty easy to tell if the die has a carbide insert. Take the die out of the press and look at the bottom where the case goes in. There should be a grey or silver looking ring pressed in. If no ring, means it's not carbide.

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      • #4
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20826

        i notice my lee gets sticky after a few so i have a little white candle i rub a case on every 50 or so

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        • #5
          kielbasavw
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1611

          I forget the year stamped on dies, but its a carbide die. Ither 1976 or 1979

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          • #6
            'ol shooter
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 4646

            I use Imperial Sizing Wax on all my straight wall cases before sizing, I just rub it on my fingers and palm and give all the brass a good massage in a plastic tub. The brass sizes nice and smooth. I have Lyman Carbides in .38 and .44 from 1978, still working great.
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            • #7
              kielbasavw
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 1611

              There is buldged glock brass, and I tried sizing several without any issue.

              My sizer die has a full carbide sleeve, not a ring. It will size the entire brass all at once. I figure maybe the larger surface area creates more friction. But I went through 200 without lube and without problem

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              • #8
                kielbasavw
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1611


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                • #9
                  J-cat
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2005
                  • 6626

                  Originally posted by kielbasavw
                  I forget the year stamped on dies, but its a carbide die. Ither 1976 or 1979
                  If it's a carbide die then the reason your cases are getting stuck is carbon fouling. Clean the die. Rub some oil on the carbide, and make sure your cases are clean before trying to resize them.

                  I once stuck a case in my Redding titanium carbide die, but I reloaded a single case 30 times at the range without cleaning. So there was a lot of carbon pressed into the carbide.

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                  • #10
                    BigBronco also not a Cabinetguy
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 7079

                    Originally posted by kielbasavw

                    Yep that's an older RCBS Carbide Die. I have a few just like it.
                    "Life is a long song" Jethro Tull

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                    • #11
                      kielbasavw
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 1611

                      Die was freshly cleaned no carbon no dirt. Nada

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                      • #12
                        J-cat
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2005
                        • 6626

                        Did you rub some oil on the carbide after cleaning it? Or did you run it dry?

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                        • #13
                          tylenol9999
                          Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 393

                          Are the shells pretty snug in the shell holder? I purchased additional shell holder as the universal pos from Lee would rip the rim of shells.
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                          https://www.autodropper.net/

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                          • #14
                            kielbasavw
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1611

                            Using rcbs shell holder, ive ran the die, completely dry, oiled, and case lubed. All eventually seized a piece

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                            • #15
                              J-cat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2005
                              • 6626

                              I hereby pronounce your die a POS.

                              Get a Redding titanium carbide die. I've been running mine for 10+ years and only stuck a case once

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