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  • Goesfaster
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 114

    357 with Blue Dot

    Did not want to thread jack so I will ask separate.

    What is the best way to get all the powder to burn. Heavier projectile(more pressure required to move heavier bullet, burns more powder)or more crimp or ??? The load works well... I just get funny looks due to the cloud of smoke from what I think is unburnt powder

    .357 magnum load
    Standard primer
    9.5 grains blue dot powder
    158g lead SWC

    686 4" revolver
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    Bt Doctur
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 471

    try a different powder, cant have smoke from unburned powder.guessing that charge is around 900-1000fps

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    • #3
      promethean_spark
      Junior Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 81

      I've gone through most of a pound of blue dot in 9mm (it was what I could get...) and it doesn't make noticeable smoke with 7.5g behind a 115g plated bullet. It could be the lube on your lead bullet, not the powder.

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      • #4
        rsrocket1
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2768

        The burn characteristics of Blue Dot is such that it does not burn completely in any pistol length barrel. It's just too slow and is meant to fill up the case, send the bullet out of the barrel fast and not generate excessive pressure. You are simply not going to burn more than 75% of it by the time the bullet exits a 4" barrel. If you bumped the charge to 10.2g and had a 16" barrel, you would burn about 95% of the powder by the time the bullet exits the barrel.

        Don't worry about 100% powder consumption. Fast powders consume themselves quickly and generate high pressures without driving the bullet very fast. Slow powders do the opposite which allows you to drive bullets fast without going over pressure. The price you pay is more powder per charge and less efficiency.

        If you are getting a big muzzle blast, it's not necessarily powder going off. The powder generates additional gases which ignite on contact with the oxygen rich environment outside the barrel. Some powders have a flash suppressant which reduces the blast. The real indication of unburnt powder is residual flakes in front of your shooting bench. If you increased the charge to the max (10.2g) you would also increase the powder consumption to 80%, but you'll probably make a bigger blast, more smoke and more recoil.

        Frankly, if I am loading a big load for my 4" Ruger, I use Power Pistol. It also produces a nice big flash, lots of smoke and lets me know I'm shooting a big load. For target plinking 5g Unique in a 38SP case is just fine. 2.8g Red Dot or Clays is more like a rimfire.

        Unless you are sure your lead bullets are fat enough for your barrel, I would not reduce the charge of Blue Dot very much or you might get a lot of lead in the barrel.

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        • #5
          Fishslayer
          In Memoriam
          • Jan 2010
          • 13035

          Originally posted by promethean_spark
          It could be the lube on your lead bullet, not the powder.
          I would say this ^^^. I use the same charge of 2400 under plated & tumble lubed cast. Not much smoke with the plated, with the cast it looks like I'm doing a War of Northern Aggression reenactment.
          "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
          You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
          You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


          Originally Posted by JackRydden224
          I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
          Originally posted by redcliff
          A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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