Cannot use h110 on a cast .44 mag?

[MulePacker]

Trying to find load data for my 200 grain rn/FP cast lead. With h110? Why?

[MulePacker]

Why can't I find that data rather? H110 too hot for cast lead? Lol I dunno

[Bt Doctur]

The slowest load i see in my Hornady 4th Edition Vol1 is H110 24.1@1700fps using a jacketed 200 HP/XTP.
My old Lyman book shows nothing over 1200 fps using cast from 180 gr- 250 gr

[MulePacker]

Yeah that's what mine reads. What would be wrong with using the same data to load a cast lead RN/FP 200 gr instead of a hollow poit jacketed?

[thenodnarb]

Yeah that's what mine reads. What would be wrong with using the same data to load a cast lead RN/FP 200 gr instead of a hollow poit jacketed?

I've done similar with 357 loads. You should get slightly higher speeds at lower pressure. Make sure your bullets are lubed good or even go with powder coating. Your only problem should be with leading.

[TKM]

Gas check and away you go.

[thenodnarb]

A gas check isn't necessary if your bullet is lubed with the right lube. I personally don't think alox cuts it. I've had good luck with beeswax/paraffin/crisco pan lube mix I made up. There are lots of recipes out there though.

[ar15barrels]

Trying to find load data for my 200 grain rn/FP cast lead. With h110? Why?

Cast bullets are GENERALLY loaded to lower pressures/velocities.
H110 and Win296 are specifically NOT good powders for anything but high pressure/velocity loads.

[Whiterabbit]

Gas check and away you go.

A gas check isn't necessary if your bullet is lubed with the right lube. I personally don't think alox cuts it. I've had good luck with beeswax/paraffin/crisco pan lube mix I made up. There are lots of recipes out there though.

Both of these for sure. I can shoot my 460 all day with H110 and home cast bullets, no gas check. I can't do it with just ANY bullet (see above for GENERAL accepted practices), but heavy for cal is no problem, IMO, when you get the size, lube, and alloy right.

For 44 mag, for a 200 grain, I think it would work just fine, with the following caveats:

good lube. Not tumble lube.
100% case fill.
really tight fit.
hardball alloy or better.

Use a gas check and tight fitting bullet, and I have no doubts you can break every other "rule" and it'll shoot just fine with respect to leading. gas checks are a serious crutch.

[Whiterabbit]

Mulepacker, here is my practical suggestion:

if your 200 grain RN/FP is HARDCAST and TRADITIONAL LUBED, go for the H110 loads for jacketed data. Use starting data or even a grain below. Do not use the crimp groove (ESPECIALLY if you use below starting loads with H110) and put the base of the bullet right down on top of the powder. 95-105% case fill is what you are shooting for. Start by single loading, test for leading, accuracy, and bullet pull (load two, shoot one, replace one, keep shooting just one leaving the unfired round for a few shots then see if the bullet is pulling out of the case)

If your bullets are UNDERSIZED or MOLY lubed, use starting data for the jacketed load, fire 6, see how bad it leads and shoots all over the place, maybe hang fires, then move on. If they are tight and moly coated, there's a small chance they will still work.

You'll eventually find a combo that will shoot just fine with respect to cast/no gas check and H110, if you look long enough. When you do, shoot 100 or so to verify the groups don't open up. And don't mistake antimony wash in the barrel for leading.

(my experience is based on trying everything under the sun to make cast work in a 460 S&W and seeing what works and what doesn't with respect to H110. FYI bear creek 45 acp bullets shot with 50 grains of H110 doesn't work so well! cool fireball though.)

[CEDaytonaRydr]

H110 and Win296 are specifically NOT good powders for anything but high pressure/velocity loads.

^^ This...

Suggest you look into PB or Trailboss...

Unique and bullseye will also launch lead cast bullets with good results. Perhaps 2400 too...