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  • Bikertrash
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 1079

    basic bullet questions

    I'm going through all my misc bullets I have been given and inherited. None of them have labels. .41 mag semi wadcutters weighing 13.5 grams. My unit converter shows these as 208 grain. Is that right?

    45-70 JHP weighs 19.5 grams shows 300grain. That sounds about right. I also have some .45. Is there any difference between .45acp & .45LC projectiles?

    I'll be looking to trade stuff I can't use to finish up my reloading set up and start this sickness on my own. I just want to .make sure someone knows what they are getting.

    Thank you for your patience.
  • #2
    Divernhunter
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 8753

    You need a scale that weights in grains.
    Most jacketed 45ACP bullets are .451 and 45LC are .452. They also tend to have different profiles.
    A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
    NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
    SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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    • #3
      Bikertrash
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 1079

      Thank you for the .45 info. I .45 bullets I have are lead and not jacketed. I would like to use them in my Ruger Vaquero if possible. I will break out my calipers and see what they measure. I may have a grain scale so I'll dig through the cabinets.

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      • #4
        mark501w
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 1699

        .45/70 projectiles are.458 & not for pistols.

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        • #5
          Whiterabbit
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2010
          • 7587

          you can use ANY 45colt or 45 acp bullet in a vaquero.

          Some 45 colt bullets have too flat of a nose to feed a semi auto 45 acp gun. But you can also shoot any of these bullets in a 45 acp revolver. Even if it is a 300 grain wide flat nose.

          The only real difference (till you pass 300 grains, roughly), is nose profile for feeding in a semi auto.

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          • #6
            Bikertrash
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 1079

            . That's Great news since there's a couple thousand of those. Turns out I don't have a grain scale. As far as the 45-70 I'll be getting rid of them.

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            • #7
              Bikertrash
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2011
              • 1079

              Originally posted by f4tweet
              Most .41 Mag bullets are 210gr. You are GTG. Are they lead, semi jacket, or plated?
              Lead with an o-ring around the base.

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              • #8
                Bikertrash
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 1079

                I appreciate that tip but There's only 35 of the 45/70 so I'll let someone else enjoy them.
                Last edited by Bikertrash; 01-20-2014, 11:28 AM.

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                • #9
                  Divernhunter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2010
                  • 8753

                  I want to see the bullet with an "O-ring" on it........
                  A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                  NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                  SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                  • #10
                    ElDub1950
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 5688

                    Originally posted by Bikertrash
                    . That's Great news since there's a couple thousand of those. Turns out I don't have a grain scale. As far as the 45-70 I'll be getting rid of them.
                    you don't need a grain scale if you have a gram scale.

                    just google "convert xx grams to grains" and it will give you the right conversion.

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                    • #11
                      Whiterabbit
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 7587

                      im sure the o-ring is either a copper gas check or a zinc washer.

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                      • #12
                        Divernhunter
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 8753

                        That is what I was thinking. It would be a gas check. But I would like to see it
                        A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                        NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                        SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                        • #13
                          Germz
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 4691

                          I bet the o-ring is the lube channel
                          Retired Account

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                          • #14
                            TimRB
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 920

                            If you are using a gram scale, it needs to be a pretty good one. For reloading you need to be able to measure powder within a tenth of a grain or so. A tenth of a grain is about 6.5 milligrams.

                            You have posted weights to a tenth of a gram. A tenth of a gram is over 1.5 grains, so if that is the best your scale can do, it is not nearly good enough for reloading.

                            Tim

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                            • #15
                              Whiterabbit
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 7587

                              yep, every grain scale I have seen can be set to grams. In gram mode, it measures to the nearest .01 grams. That's the resolution needed for reloading.

                              If you don't want to spend the money on a quality scale that is OK. Cruise craigslist. You'll find a drug dealer eventually getting rid of his. Make sure it can be set to grains and go get it. test it with a bullet if you want before paying.

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