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  • Knife Edge
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1355

    Need pet load for 7mm-08 162 A-Max with 8208

    Not many talk about 8208 and 7mm-08 however there are the occasional random posts found through Google that claim amazing results. With 8208 being easier than others to find I am trying to keep all my semi-autos on one type.
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    NorCalFocus
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    • Aug 2013
    • 3913

    Do you have a question?

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    • #3
      GreenAndy
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 496

      The Hodgdon site lists lots of loads for 8208 XBR. Even one with that same bullet.
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      • #4
        Knife Edge
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 1355

        Thanks. I can find start and max loads as well, need a ballpark on a good one.

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        • #5
          Knife Edge
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1355

          Originally posted by NorCalFocus
          Do you have a question?


          Probably beyond your intellect.

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          • #6
            Cypriss32
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2004
            • 5963

            Originally posted by Knife Edge
            Not many talk about 8208 and 7mm-08 however there are the occasional random posts found through Google that claim amazing results. With 8208 being easier than others to find I am trying to keep all my semi-autos on one type.
            Okay, I take it your rifle is a semi auto. Do you know IF you can even SAFELY load the 162gr at mag length? I know people have trouble shooting it threw a AICS mag because of the VERY long bullet length. IMHO you might be forced to shoot lighter bullets or get a box of 162gr SST and copy the COAL and drop the AMAX idea. Take a few pics id like to see the round loaded to your COAL in a mag.

            162 GR. HDY A-MAX IMR IMR 8208 XBR .284" 2.875" 36.2 2499 41,000 CUP 40.2 2725 50,800 CUP

            Thats from Hodgen web sight. I would give it a try and see what results you can get.
            Ohh and some research I did quickly for you:
            2.80 is BEST for LR308/Ar10 mags

            2.84 MIGHT work, but 2.875 is just too long man. Its not going to work. Of coarse if its a semi auto, by your post I presume it is.
            Last edited by Cypriss32; 01-19-2014, 6:46 PM.
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            • #7
              Bumslie
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              • Oct 2011
              • 5358

              I've never seen a semi auto 7mm-08, but now I kind of want one.
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                Cypriss32
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                • Jul 2004
                • 5963

                Originally posted by Bumslie
                I've never seen a semi auto 7mm-08, but now I kind of want one.
                There was M1A's chambered in it, DPMS LR308s in it, AR10 (armalite), and R25 remingtons:
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                  Bumslie
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                  Originally posted by Cypriss32
                  There was M1A's chambered in it, DPMS LR308s in it, AR10 (armalite), and R25 remingtons:
                  http://www.remington.com/product-fam...odel-r-25.aspx
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                  • #10
                    Cypriss32
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 5963

                    Originally posted by Bumslie
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                    The new GII is the ticket! Or consider a DPMS LR308 A3 24" 6.5 Creedmoor. Its the ****. PM me if you have any questions so we dont anger this guy.
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                    • #11
                      Knife Edge
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1355

                      Originally posted by Cypriss32
                      Okay, I take it your rifle is a semi auto. Do you know IF you can even SAFELY load the 162gr at mag length? I know people have trouble shooting it threw a AICS mag because of the VERY long bullet length. IMHO you might be forced to shoot lighter bullets or get a box of 162gr SST and copy the COAL and drop the AMAX idea. Take a few pics id like to see the round loaded to your COAL in a mag.

                      162 GR. HDY A-MAX IMR IMR 8208 XBR .284" 2.875" 36.2 2499 41,000 CUP 40.2 2725 50,800 CUP

                      Thats from Hodgen web sight. I would give it a try and see what results you can get.
                      Ohh and some research I did quickly for you:
                      2.80 is BEST for LR308/Ar10 mags

                      2.84 MIGHT work, but 2.875 is just too long man. Its not going to work. Of coarse if its a semi auto, by your post I presume it is.
                      Yes, it's a LMT MWS with a 20" SS 7mm-08, sorry for not making that clear. You know how it is when you are thinking about every minute detail and forget to mention something as important as that. I guess I get the I like turtles award for the day.

                      I just opened up my Hornady 9th and on page 332 it shows the OAL of 162 A-max to be 2.755", should fit! Semi-auto, LMT, .284 with a Litz G-7 of .307 and G1 of .625! Assuming I can just get to 2700 fps that sucker will stay supersonic to 1350 yards, about a 500 yard improvement over my OBR and 155g SMK. 2600 fps will stay in the game to 1280 yards, either way a solid win.

                      I have had excellent luck with XBR in .223 up to 77g and .308 up to 155g (1/4 MOA), 168g (1/2 MOA) and 175/178g (barely sub-MOA). Obviously the powder has a challenging time with the heavier bullets but I am hoping the .284 bullets in 162 will act more like the lighter weight .308s. The LMT barrel is also quite a bit thicker than the Larue so that may better absorb some of the resultant harmonics. The question which we will all know soon enough, does bearing surface, weight or both have more of an affect on interaction with a particular powder? If my hypothesis is correct, the 162s will sail boys. If they do I will post that load for everyone!

                      Anyways, was hoping someone would jump in and say XYZg = epic happiness; till then awaiting brass.
                      Last edited by Knife Edge; 01-22-2014, 11:30 AM.

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                      • #12
                        Knife Edge
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1355

                        Originally posted by Bumslie
                        I've never seen a semi auto 7mm-08, but now I kind of want one.
                        Its about 95% of a 6.5 Creedmoor with WAY more power. When I called LMT to order the 6.5 the gal actually talked me into the 7mm, glad she did. When it comes to knocking the steel or hunting pig at long range you need every foot pound you can get. Look it up 7mm-08 is hugely popular in the bolt gun world.

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                          Bumslie
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                          • Oct 2011
                          • 5358

                          Originally posted by Knife Edge
                          Its about 95% of a 6.5 Creedmoor with WAY more power. When I called LMT to order the 6.5 the gal actually talked me into the 7mm, glad she did. When it comes to knocking the steel or hunting pig at long range you need every foot pound you can get. Look it up 7mm-08 is hugely popular in the bolt gun world.
                          Oh I've been wanting the 7mm-08 in a bolt gun for a long time. Just never crossed my mind it was chambered for a semi-auto
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                          • #14
                            Knife Edge
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1355

                            This was a wild one...

                            LMT MWS 20" 7mm-08, 162 A-Max, XBR 8208, Norma Brass and CCI 200 primers, PWS PRC brake, shooting off a bipod and rear bag. Indoor 100y range.

                            Initial groups with factory Hornady SST 139g were horrible at 4 MOA and never settled down. Handload accuracy from 38g to blowing primers at 40g was 2 MOA at best, worse below that. I took the rifle home, called LMT, pulled the barrel, cleaned the receiver and extension and reset/torqued the barrel. Cleaned up with Hoppes 9, Wipe Out and Montana Extreme, the barrel looks freakin perfect.

                            Back to the range for day two and the factory ammo was still shooting 3 to 4 MOA, handloads still 2 MOA after moving the bullet out to maximum magazine length. The PWS PRC brake that I had sitting around is actually drilled for .338 caliber bullets but threaded in 5/8x24 so it can work on all magnum Remingtons. I decided to take the brake off to assess its affect on accuracy and the factory ammo dropped to 1.3 MOA, handloads printed two .5 MOA groups. After some extended beer drinking and research I found one post on the Snipers Hide about the exit hole should be no larger than .02" over the bullet diameter or it will greatly affect accuracy. This must be true and the fact that the brake is so over bored for the caliber it provided zero recoil reduction.

                            Anyways, the 8208 and 7mm experiment was a win! Now running all .223 calibers, 168g and under in .308, 22-250 and 7mm-08 off an extreme powder that is temperature stable from -40 to 160F and meters .05g out of a redding measurer .

                            Hodgdon Max: 40.2g
                            Hornady does not list 8208 in 7mm-08
                            Blowing primers at 40g

                            Best Accuracy: 38.6g at .5 MOA, 5-shots, bullets seated well beyond book to cycle reliably in a Pmag.

                            Accuracy has never been an issue with my other .223 and .308 PWS brakes because the tips are opened up more like a flash hider whereas the PRC has a solid exit hole. The PRC went back into the parts bin and I am now shooting another rifle with just an A2 on it, this thing has minimal kick anyways.

                            deleted photos, they were upside down.
                            Last edited by Knife Edge; 02-19-2014, 2:55 PM.

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                            • #15
                              1HitaQuita
                              Member
                              • Dec 2013
                              • 251

                              I shoot 7mm-08 but bolt action. My favorite load is 40gr of varget or imr 4064. Both powders shoot exactly the same in my rifle (sub moa easily) with a 154gr hornady sst & COAL 2.800"

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