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  • pterrell
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Aug 2013
    • 3576

    Load request 223 wylde

    I'm just putting the finishing touches on my AR build. It has a 223 wylde 20" barrel. Just wondering if someone has experience with loads on these barrels and has a good place to start for me. For now I'm not looking to shoot beyond 150 yards while I break it in. Eventually I'd like to move that out to 500-650.

    Suggestions are wanted and welcomed!
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    BenHa
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 838

    powder? primer? bullet weight? etc o-o? do you have a reloading manual? you can pretty much uses 223 reloading data and work up a load from that.

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    • #3
      pterrell
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Aug 2013
      • 3576

      Totally open to all options. I have Lyman's 49th and picked a recipe out that I can try but I wanted to see if there was someone who had specific experience with this barrel since it is a hybrid between 5.56 and 223. Still shoots both as I understand but with better accuracy than a true 5.56 barrel.
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      • #4
        BenHa
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 838

        I think the best route to go is see if you can find any primer/powder first. I shoot 75gr behind 23gr TAC and Wolf SRM primer :\ ... haven't seen wolf primer in stock since forever -_- and TAC disappears as soon as it pops up. Also you can't really pick and choose what type of powder you want since they are not really in stock :\



        PS. My load might be kinda hot so work up a load and don't steal my data ;] btw this is behind a WOA 20" 1/8 wylde chamber.
        Last edited by BenHa; 01-16-2014, 10:39 AM.

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        • #5
          pterrell
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          • Aug 2013
          • 3576

          Alright so my only real variable is going to be the bullet itself (aside from the actual charge). What distances do you shoot at and what kind of accuracy do you get?
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          • #6
            BenHa
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 838

            I get ~1" at ~150 yards the max weight should be either 75 or 77gr since if you go any heavier it won't fit in your mags xD. There isn't many places you can shoot 500-600 yards in San Diego T_T

            Edit: If this is your first time reloading and need help don't hesistate and send me a PM.
            Last edited by BenHa; 01-16-2014, 10:51 AM.

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            • #7
              BrianRodela
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 607

              Berger 70 VLD seated to 2.250"
              23.5 gn AR Comp
              Rem 7 1/2 primer
              2930 fps +\- 7fps
              Great out to 700 easily

              Berger 80.5 Fullbore seated to 2.445"
              22.5 gn AR Comp
              Rem 7 1/2 primer
              2749 fps +\- 13 fps
              My 600 line load

              Both using LC brass
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              • #8
                bsumoba
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 4217

                77gr SMK
                22gr 8208XBR

                77gr SMK
                24gr Win748

                77gr SMK
                23.5gr CFE223

                77gr SMK
                23-23.5gr Varget
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                • #9
                  milotrain
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 4301

                  77gr SMK / Nosler CC, 75gr Hornady HPBT, , 82gr Berger HPBT, 80gr Berger VLD, 75gr Hornady A-Max, 80gr Hornady A-Max

                  23.2gr 8208XBR (with the 77gr this is a SAAMI max load, with the 75gr it's slightly under, with the 80 and 82 it is slightly over. Work up accordingly.)
                  24gr RL15 (with the 77gr this is .1 gr under SAAMI max, follow above advice)
                  Whatever primer you feel like.

                  Italic loads are single load only. What barrel twist?
                  Last edited by milotrain; 01-16-2014, 3:29 PM.
                  weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                  frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                  • #10
                    highpower790
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 3481

                    24.5gr varget with any match bullet .
                    Keep it simple!

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                    • #11
                      pterrell
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 3576

                      Thanks everyone for your imput! Gotten a lot of info here to help me get on this new project.
                      Originally posted by milotrain
                      Italic loads are single load only. What barrel twist?
                      Mine is a 1:8 twist.
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                      • #12
                        Mike402
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 555

                        This is very helpful. I am having JP Precision rebarrel my M&P tactical 15 with one of their .223 Wylde match barrels. Good starting points here.

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                        • #13
                          milotrain
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 4301

                          with a 1:8 you are fine with any of those. The 82gr might have problems if you don't get it going fast enough but they should be fine.
                          weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                          frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                          • #14
                            pterrell
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 3576

                            Originally posted by milotrain
                            with a 1:8 you are fine with any of those. The 82gr might have problems if you don't get it going fast enough but they should be fine.
                            I've seen a lot of 70-77gr bullets so that will probably be what i start out with. Out of curiosity, are these minimum loads, your own "sweet spot" or maximum loads?
                            Dear ISIS, Texas is not known for their gun free zones.


                            Patches sold here. I am not affiliated with this page in any way.

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                            • #15
                              milotrain
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 4301

                              Maximum loads. I'll update my original post. In the case of the real big heavies they are over SAAMI, in the case of the 77, the hodgdon.com website lists 23.2gr of 8208 as MAX. One thing to note is that the accuracy node of 8208 is around 22.5-23.2, I've tested quite a bit above 23.2 and I see a degradation of accuracy pretty rapidly. Don't exceed 23.2 both for safety and accuracy.
                              weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                              frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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