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You must be correct, your testing is the only "real scientific" data ever collected. All other testing by FBI, other LE, the Military and other professionals is "old wives tales".
I never knew Massad Ayoob was an "old wife". I'll let you inform him.
I have tremendus respect for Ayoob
You are obviously more knowledgeable than him so you may not need to read this;
"Buckshot is a very close range proposition. It is actually at its best as an antipersonnel load, favored by the military for jungle warfare and embassy guard duties (it proved horrendously effective in the trenches during WWI), and by police. This writer uses buckshot as a home defense shotgun load, with #1 Express (full power) buckshot in the semiautomatic 12 guage. This delivers 16 .30 caliber pellets that strike with optimum penetration for erect bipeds, and with optimum pattern saturation at distances from close range to 15 yards. These pellets will normally stay inside the assailant’s body with a front to back shot, reducing danger to innocent bystanders who might be located unseen behind a violent criminal"
I disagree with nothing he says here. maybe you should consider some of the things he dosen't say like; "6,7,8,9's do not penetrate people". Massad didn't say that and he never would because he knows better. Buckshot is a close range proposition, probably about 30 yards at best depending on the size. But it will go through your walls and kill your kids, no question. Mabe Ayoob dosen't have kids at home any more, I don't know. I would not use birdshot to guard an embasy or fight in the jungle, and I didn't recomend that. Birdshot is also a close range proposition, probably 30 FEET at best depending on size. There is value in that. As for staying in an assailants body, I don't know about you but I miss sometimes. Anyone who thinks that an ounce of birdshot in the torso at ten yards I ment to say FEET is not a stopping proposition simply does not understand physics and/or biology. Don't take my word for it, try it yourself, then get back to me.
BTW, have you ever had to clear your home, in the dark, with a .357, all the while hopeing that if you have to shoot you have correctly estimated where your sleeping children are. I have, and that's what prompted my experiments.
At least I know not to look any farther than you when I want the "real facts" Thanks!!!!
Well, I've accomplished something then.
Sorry you can't deal with criticism, that's too bad, but that's not my fault.
I was just trolling for smartalics, looks like I got a bite
I never knew Massad Ayoob was an "old wife". I'll let you inform him.
I have tremendus respect for Ayoob
You are obviously more knowledgeable than him so you may not need to read this;
"Buckshot is a very close range proposition. It is actually at its best as an antipersonnel load, favored by the military for jungle warfare and embassy guard duties (it proved horrendously effective in the trenches during WWI), and by police. This writer uses buckshot as a home defense shotgun load, with #1 Express (full power) buckshot in the semiautomatic 12 guage. This delivers 16 .30 caliber pellets that strike with optimum penetration for erect bipeds, and with optimum pattern saturation at distances from close range to 15 yards. These pellets will normally stay inside the assailant’s body with a front to back shot, reducing danger to innocent bystanders who might be located unseen behind a violent criminal"
I disagree with nothing he says here. maybe you should consider some of the things he dosen't say like; "6,7,8,9's do not penetrate people". Massad didn't say that and he never would because he knows better. Buckshot is a close range proposition, probably about 30 yards at best depending on the size. But it will go through your walls and kill your kids, no question. Mabe Ayoob dosen't have kids at home any more, I don't know. I would not use birdshot to guard an embasy or fight in the jungle, and I didn't recomend that. Birdshot is also a close range proposition, probably 30 FEET at best depending on size. There is value in that. As for staying in an assailants body, I don't know about you but I miss sometimes. Anyone who thinks that an ounce of birdshot in the torso at ten yards I ment to say FEET is not a stopping proposition simply does not understand physics and/or biology. Don't take my word for it, try it yourself, then get back to me.
BTW, have you ever had to clear your home, in the dark, with a .357, all the while hopeing that if you have to shoot you have correctly estimated where your sleeping children are. I have, and that's what prompted my experiments.
At least I know not to look any farther than you when I want the "real facts" Thanks!!!!
Well, I've accomplished something then.
Sorry you can't deal with criticism, that's too bad, but that's not my fault.
I was just trolling for smartalics, looks like I got a bite
I assure you that a birdshot blast from 10-20 feet away especially from a full choke is not fun. 
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