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  • digger2
    Member
    • May 2013
    • 268

    sizing issue-Jaming on feeding

    My lee 9mm says it should be .356.
    My gauge(digital calipers) says .3574 and I keep getting feeding issues and jams.
    The Lyman book says a 9mm should be .355

    Is this enough to cause a jam or is there something else in play?
    I use a 4 die lee carbide set.
  • #2
    thai562
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1199

    It shouldn't be jamming. Make sure you push the case up far enough into the bullet seating die to start crimping the case lip.

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    • #3
      noylj
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 713

      I have never seen a 9x19 that had any problem feeding bullets up to 0.359".
      If it won't feed, take out the barrel, coat the bullet and the first 1/2 of the case with black magic marker, drop in chamber and rotate back-and-forth one or two times, remove the round and SEE where the problem is.
      If marks are on bullet, the COL is too long.
      If the marks are on the case mouth, you haven't removed enough case mouth flare.
      If marks are down where the base of the bullet is, you didn't expand the case ID enough (not talking case mouth flare/bell, but the actual case expansion where case ID should be 0.001-0.002" less than bullet OD.
      Fix the problem and then recheck.
      A 9mm jacketed bullet should be 0.355-0.356". A lead bullet should be at least 0.001" larger than barrel groove diameter (which can range from about 0.354-0.362" in various 9x19 barrels.

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      • #4
        'ol shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4646

        I taper crimp mine until they drop freely into my case gauge, and they feed like clockwork. I have never had a fail to feed on 9mm or 45acp. I don't measure them, that's what the gauge is for. Just my $.02.
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        • #5
          J-cat
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2005
          • 6626

          I think he's talking about the bullet diameter, not the case.

          9mm bullet diameter depends on your particular chamber dimensions. I run .359" bullets all the time. Some chambers are a bit tighter and need .358". Bar-Sto told me theirs have .357" throats so you 'd need .356".

          Of you run an undersized bullet you'll get leading even if the bulletbis a good match for the barrel. The chamber throat dictates the size, just like in a revolver.

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          • #6
            Sheldon
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2148

            What pistol you shooting the rounds out of and more importantly, what powder and charge are you using? Need more details......

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            • #7
              digger2
              Member
              • May 2013
              • 268

              It is happening on both sig p226 and P6
              I am using 4 grains of Winchester WSF.
              I have ordered a case gauge as suggested as well.

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              • #8
                J-cat
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2005
                • 6626

                Field strip the pistol. Remove the barrel.

                Do they drop in and out of the chamber without binding?

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                • #9
                  digger2
                  Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 268

                  just what I started to do
                  Attached Files

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                  • #10
                    digger2
                    Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 268

                    They drop in ok, but I think they are not fully seating

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                    • #11
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      What bullet? What OAL? I think the bullet is hitting the rifling.

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                      • #12
                        digger2
                        Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 268

                        cast bullet.
                        lee 356-120gr Tc
                        measures .5635 long and a commercial one I have measures .5535

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                        • #13
                          J-cat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2005
                          • 6626

                          Ok, but to what overall length did you load it?

                          1.169"?

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                          • #14
                            J-cat
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2005
                            • 6626

                            Here:



                            Your OAL should be in the 1.050" range, else the boolit will hit the rifling prematurely causing FTF malfunctions.

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                            • #15
                              digger2
                              Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 268

                              1.10-1.08 av
                              the max was 1.12

                              Lyman book says a max of 1.169

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