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  • waxer
    Member
    • May 2006
    • 338

    .308 Reloading & Mixed Load Data

    Good Afternoon Folks,

    I'm researching some starting loads for my Savage Axis and have purchased the following materials.

    Powder
    IMR 4064
    CFE 223

    Projectiles
    Hornady .308 150gr SP

    I've gone to Hodgdon's data site to look up the recipe.



    The problem is the Hornady bullets I purchased are not listed. The only 150gr .308 projectiles they list are Nosler BT and Nosler E-Tip. Is it ok to just go off of the Nosler BT projectiles that show data for IMR 4064 and CFE 223 powders?

    I've noticed this before with my 9mm pistol reloads, as the Xtreme bullets weren't listed. I chose a comparable bullet and loaded at the starting point and everything worked out fine. Since I'm going with a high powered rifle round with this, I wanted to double check with some of you veterans.


    Thanks
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  • #2
    mark501w
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1699

    Yes.

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    • #3
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      A particular mfg does not matter when reloading ,your concern should be not to exceed a given load with a particular bullet.Go by bullet weight and you will be fine.
      Keep it simple!

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      • #4
        waxer
        Member
        • May 2006
        • 338

        That's what I figured guys... thanks for the responses.
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        • #5
          postal
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 4566

          Pretty much yeah....

          Except, when it comes to COAL. You dont know the length of your bullet compared to those listed- while usually pretty similar, some rounds like lapua scenars tend to be very long bullets.

          With that being said, just loading to a typical 2.800 coal is probably fine.

          The only other thing, is those bullets are probably pretty light for your rifle- Dont know about the axis, but most savage 308's have a 1/10 twist, which is more suited for heavies like 168, 175, 180g range

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          • #6
            CSACANNONEER
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            • Dec 2006
            • 44094

            Also, you can always call or email bullet manufactures and/or powder manufacturers and ask if they have any load data for a certain bullet or powder. This is extremely important when loading non lead bullets like Barnes.
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            • #7
              waxer
              Member
              • May 2006
              • 338

              Thanks again guys.

              So I completed 40 rounds yesterday. I followed the load data found on the Hodgdon website as I indicated above.

              The COAL was done at 2.800" and the cannelure at that measurement wasn't even near the case neck at all to be utilized. Take a look.....





              Do you guys think this will be any type of issue? The depth of the bullet is still utilizing the entire neck.
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              • #8
                CSACANNONEER
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                • Dec 2006
                • 44094

                They look good to me.
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                • #9
                  waxer
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                  • May 2006
                  • 338

                  Cool, I'll run em.

                  Thanks
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                  • #10
                    Bastard
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 2209

                    everything looks good, however I would recommend that the next time you purchase bullets that you pick up something heavier - I believe that the Savage Axis is a 1:10 twist which tends to like heavier better. Also the IMR4064 that you have is a great 308 powder, I use it to push a 175 gr SMK in my 308

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                    • #11
                      waxer
                      Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 338

                      Originally posted by Bastard
                      everything looks good, however I would recommend that the next time you purchase bullets that you pick up something heavier - I believe that the Savage Axis is a 1:10 twist which tends to like heavier better. Also the IMR4064 that you have is a great 308 powder, I use it to push a 175 gr SMK in my 308
                      Thanks on your recommendations. Yes it is in fact a 1:10 twist, so I'll purchase heavier next time. I only purchased 300 projectiles for zeroing at 100 yards and getting familiarized with the rifle.
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                      • #12
                        postal
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 4566

                        I didnt realize your bullets were cannelure....

                        You should be fine at 2.800, or you could press them down to the cannelure. Best guess is thats about another .050..... that will be a LONG freebore... I'd leave them at 2.8

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                        • #13
                          waxer
                          Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 338

                          UPDATE

                          Good Morning Guys,

                          Well I went shooting yesterday with these reloads and have noticed a ring of carbon around the case neck. It's not consistent all around the neck, as it seems to be more noticeable around 75% of the neck. Is this indicative of some sort of adjustment that is needed? Is this normal for new brass that is fire forming in the chamber? I haven't noticed this on a single piece of brass fired in .223 from any of my AR's.

                          Here's the batch info on these reloads.
                          • New Lapua .308 Brass
                          • Winchester 9 1/2 Primers
                          • Hornady Interlock SP 150gr Bullets
                          • Both 44gr and 45.5gr of IMR 4064
                          • OAL: 2.800"





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                          • #14
                            Bastard
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2209

                            nope you're good - keep shooting

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                            • #15
                              Abenaki
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1077

                              They look good to me,

                              Soooo, how are they shooting? Post some target pics!


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