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  • Kelster1574
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 1053

    Casse failure, now what? (see pic)

    First pull of the trigger on my Brand New Glock 23........case fails, and it blows the magazine out the bottom of the mag well. I inspect the gun, everything looks fine, I inspect the ammo, everything looks fine..........about five shots later another case failure.....blows the magazine release in half and burns the crap our of my hand......gun is done for the day and so is the ammo.

    Ammo - Bulk Reloads bought at local gun show about 10 years ago. They have been kept sealed in a 30cal. ammo can that they were purchased in. They look as good as a new round.

    So I now have 500+ rounds of .40S&W that I will not shoot. Would it be kosher to sell them if I stated the issues I have had? I know a lot of folks who reload can pull them apart and use them for supplies.

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  • #2
    MulePacker
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 836

    I dont see myself shooting reloads from people I dont know. I'd pull them, save brass and bullets. Powder can go to the garden

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    • #3
      SWalt
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2012
      • 8655

      Did they both fail the same way? Who is the case manufacturer? That case looks strange to me. Like the case head is a separate piece from the case wall and it failed where both are connected.
      ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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      "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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      • #4
        Kelster1574
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 1053

        Originally posted by SWalt
        Did they both fail the same way? Who is the case manufacturer? That case looks strange to me. Like the case head is a separate piece from the case wall and it failed where both are connected.
        The case shown is a Winchester, the other failure looked almost indentical. Unfortunately it was past the firing line so I couldn't grab it.
        www.thekelster.com



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        • #5
          Kelster1574
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 1053

          Originally posted by MulePacker
          I dont see myself shooting reloads from people I dont know. I'd pull them, save brass and bullets. Powder can go to the garden
          I will not ever shoot another reload unless it's a factory reload. Like I mentioned, I purchased these over 10 years ago and they look great.

          Thats the thing, I dont have the time or the equipment to seperate them. Thinking they might have some value as components.
          www.thekelster.com



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          • #6
            Germz
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Apr 2013
            • 4691

            Originally posted by MulePacker
            I dont see myself shooting reloads from people I dont know. I'd pull them, save brass and bullets. Powder can go to the garden
            As long as the reloads were made by a licensed individual I'm ok with it.

            OP if there was no damage to your barrel, it was probably a light load that caused a pressure spike.
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            • #7
              SonofWWIIDI
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2011
              • 21583

              Had a buddy with the same issue. We went for the range and the aging reloads were crap. Fortunately it only took a couple of rounds before one cracked and got stuck in the chamber, no kaboom! He gave them to me. Eventually, I'll pull them, keep the projectiles, fertilize the garden and recycle the brass (after soaking to disable the primer of course).

              Hope your hand is okay!
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              • #8
                Chief-7700
                Veteran Member
                • May 2008
                • 3382

                I will give you $20.00 for them.

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                • #9
                  OldShooter32
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2056

                  Buy a $15 kinetic bullet puller and break down all to the components. Reload to your specs. Powder, cases, bullets and primer all GTG.
                  "If we make enough laws, we can all be criminals."

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                  • #10
                    Enfield47
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 6385

                    Your best best is to pull the bullets and dump the powder on the grass. I wouldn't shoot them, who knows what else might happen.

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                    • #11
                      Corbin Dallas
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                      • May 2006
                      • 6173

                      I suspect bullet setback. See if you can push any of the remaining bullets into the case by hand.
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                      • #12
                        SWalt
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 8655

                        I'll have to agree with the others and just pull the bullets of the whole lot. If 2 already failed no sense in chancing it with the others. The way it separated looks very strange to me still but it could be the picture. I've seen warnings about not using some .40 ammo in firearms that don't fully support the case but I can't imaging a glock not supporting it. I don't have a glock so I can't really say. You could remove the barrel and use it as a case gauge to see if the ammo freely chambers. There shouldn't be any resistance. I would also strip the glock and look for any defects. Does it go fully into battery is another thing I would look at. But if you can't find any other explanation, just pull them and fertilize. No reason at all to chance it. Reason I asked about the case manufacturer was only to see if it was some off the wall brand
                        ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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                        CRPA 5 yr Member

                        "...which from their verbosity, their endless tautologies, their involutions of case within case, and parenthesis within parenthesis, and their multiplied efforts at certainty by saids and aforesaids, by ors and by ands, to make them more plain, do really render them more perplexed and incomprehensible, not only to common readers, but to lawyers themselves. " - Thomas Jefferson

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                        • #13
                          John Browning
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2006
                          • 8089

                          If you know these are not safe to fire and you sell them, prepare yourself for a lawsuit.

                          If you don't want to be sued, then pull them down and reload them or sell off the components.
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                          eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                          • #14
                            Bastard
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2209

                            if you have something else that is chambered in 40, just shoot the remainder out of that, as it looks like a lot of the pictures that you see when you google Glocks .40 unsupported chambers

                            or you could just pick up an aftermarket barrel


                            EDIT before I get berated for spreading crap about Glocks;

                            I am basing the above based solely on things that I have read, I have no real world experience with it myself as I have never been a fan of .40s
                            Last edited by Bastard; 11-09-2013, 10:29 AM.

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                            • #15
                              J-cat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2005
                              • 6626

                              Pull several bullets, show us pics of the powder and the weights, do some bullet setback tests. Examine the case heads for stress marks. Let us know.

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