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  • emc002
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 2331

    H4831 Powder

    Is anybody interested in military surplus H4831 Powder?
    I met an elderly gentleman yesterday that was getting out of reloading (arthritis & bad eyes) and asked if I wanted to buy his reloading equipment.
    He says he has between 50~60# of this powder and I don't know anything about it except he bought it as military surplus and it appears to be the precursor to Hogdons 4831.

    I have no idea yet what he wants for everything, but I'm looking for information before I go visit him.
    (I like to use Varget and Universal, so I've no experience with 4831.)
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    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 23019

    There was a surplus H4831 packed by Hodgon a long time ago. The current H4831 is good for large capacity cases like the WSM cartridges, 7 Rem mag, 300 Win Mag, etc.
    Frank

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    • #3
      emc002
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 2331

      Originally posted by Fjold
      There was a surplus H4831 packed by Hodgon a long time ago. The current H4831 is good for large capacity cases like the WSM cartridges, 7 Rem mag, 300 Win Mag, etc.
      How long is a long time ago and would the powder still be good?
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      "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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      • #4
        Blacktail 8541
        Senior Member
        • May 2006
        • 1567

        If it was stored correctly age will not matter. A sign of deterioration is if the powder has a red dust in it or an amonia smell.
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        • #5
          Fjold
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Oct 2005
          • 23019

          Originally posted by emc002
          How long is a long time ago and would the powder still be good?

          I remember seeing it listed for less than $1.50/lb so it had to be in the early 70's or so. If it doesn't stink (like said above, acrid or ammonia-like) and looks grey to grey-black and not clumped together, it is usually fine.
          Frank

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          • #6
            Pryde
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2506

            I think its a felony in CA to possess more than 20lbs of smokeless powder.

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            • #7
              RugBag
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2006
              • 24

              RED DUST

              TELL ME

              Can You recommend anything if there is red dust in the powder or ammonia smells.. ?

              THANX

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              • #8
                crowbar
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 561

                Originally posted by RugBag
                TELL ME

                Can You recommend anything if there is red dust in the powder or ammonia smells.. ?

                THANX
                Use it as fertilizer.

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                • #9
                  mbkmkk
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 551

                  Originally posted by Pryde
                  I think its a felony in CA to possess more than 20lbs of smokeless powder.
                  Is this true?????

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                  • #10
                    American_pride
                    Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 235

                    No not smokeless powder. you have to build a cabinet but it is not a felony
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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57159

                      Originally posted by Pryde
                      I think its a felony in CA to possess more than 20lbs of smokeless powder.


                      There are city/county fire regulations requiring more than 20lbs to be stored in a proper powder magazine (basically a big wood box), but certainly nothing in the penal code...
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                      • #12
                        dgey
                        Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 431

                        emc002,

                        regarding the H4831 Powder, if you're purchasing the guys stuff and are interested in selling some of the powder, I'd be interested in purchasing some of it, 10lbs maybe...? I'm located in Oakland... how about you...?

                        dgey@juno.com
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                        • #13
                          emc002
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 2331

                          Originally posted by dgey
                          emc002,

                          regarding the H4831 Powder, if you're purchasing the guys stuff and are interested in selling some of the powder, I'd be interested in purchasing some of it, 10lbs maybe...? I'm located in Oakland... how about you...?
                          I'm going to meet him tomorrow to look at his stuff.
                          I don't reload / own the calibers that Randall said the stuff was suitable for. The biggest caliber I shoot is .308 so I don't have a use for it, but I'll get the information and pass it along for those that are interested.
                          I'm about 2 hours east of Oakland, my in-laws live in Oakland Hills so I might be that way now and then.
                          "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

                          "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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                          • #14
                            thmpr
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 3785

                            Originally posted by emc002
                            I'm going to meet him tomorrow to look at his stuff.
                            I don't reload / own the calibers that Randall said the stuff was suitable for. The biggest caliber I shoot is .308 so I don't have a use for it, but I'll get the information and pass it along for those that are interested.
                            I'm about 2 hours east of Oakland, my in-laws live in Oakland Hills so I might be that way now and then.
                            I have calibers suited for the H4831. Let me know if the condition is acceptable and how much.
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                            • #15
                              Pryde
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2506

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels


                              There are city/county fire regulations requiring more than 20lbs to be stored in a proper powder magazine (basically a big wood box), but certainly nothing in the penal code...
                              I got it from here, don't know if its true or not.
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