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  • rolly
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 493

    308 ammo difference

    Here is my Question:
    I went to the Vallejo gun show and bought some ammo

    All from same vendor
    All with same discription
    All from same box

    Now when I look at the botton of brass I see two differences:
    one type : LC 0X, (75% of total ammo)
    second type: PMJ 0X (25%of total ammo)

    WITH X BEEING A NUMBER

    Are they the same? if not what would be the difference?
    Thanks
  • #2
    rksimple
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2006
    • 6257

    Are they reloads? If not, what is the brand of ammo?
    GAP Team Shooter 5

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    • #3
      Sig226
      Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 459

      You had to have bought reloads...


      PMJ is Poongsan metals from south korea. It was produced under a DoD contact for some time.

      LC is Lake City, largest (i think) gov contractor for NATO spec rounds.


      Both should be good to go.... What I would look for is a constant Over All Length between cartridges as well as make sure all the bullets look similar in diameter.


      ETA: 0X is the year of make. So LC 03 would be Lake City manufactured in 2003.
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        westcoastr
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • May 2007
        • 557

        it appear you bought 308 reloads, i bet from Miwall's? maybe?

        if it is same as i bought last year at the Cow Palace show its fairly good stuff. mine was loaded nice and hot (it shoots high vs milsurp and the brass is about a million degrees after it ejects) and was a bit more accurate than the aussie milsurp. and the brass was in very good shape as it didn't look live it been fired in a machine gun, which usually dents the heck out of the cases.
        Westcoastr

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        • #5
          rolly
          Member
          • May 2008
          • 493

          Originally posted by westcoastr
          it appear you bought 308 reloads, i bet from Miwall's? maybe?

          if it is same as i bought last year at the Cow Palace show its fairly good stuff. mine was loaded nice and hot (it shoots high vs milsurp and the brass is about a million degrees after it ejects) and was a bit more accurate than the aussie milsurp. and the brass was in very good shape as it didn't look live it been fired in a machine gun, which usually dents the heck out of the cases.
          Yes from Miwall's! yes it said 308 reloads.

          so far it seems accurate at 100 yards and brass seems in good shape.

          I did not pay attention when i was shooting: I do not know if the discrepency in accuracy was because of me or wind or because from differnce (LC versus Korean)

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          • #6
            westcoastr
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            • May 2007
            • 557

            i never checked to see if the different headstamps made a diference.

            btw: mine were loaded hot and were showing some primer flattening, so keep an eye on yours - don't want a kaboom is your rifle has a sloppy headspace or weak action
            Westcoastr

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            • #7
              randy
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              • Nov 2006
              • 4642

              You need alot of wind I mean alot of wind to effect a 308 at 100 yards. I wouldn't want to be at the range when it was blowing that hard.
              I move slow but I make up for it by shooting poorly.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
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                • Jan 2006
                • 57194

                Originally posted by randy
                You need alot of wind I mean alot of wind to effect a 308 at 100 yards.
                I wouldn't want to be at the range when it was blowing that hard.
                Things flying by like benches and trash cans can get annoying when you are trying to shoot...
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                • #9
                  rolly
                  Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 493

                  ok i did more tests:

                  there is a difference when using lc versus pmj.

                  The korean (pmj) shoots consistently lower (between 1 -2 inches lower at 100 yards)
                  Also i get the best accuracy with lc (it grouped less than 1 inch at 100 yards)
                  while pmj grouped between 1 - 2 inches at 100 yards.

                  Aslo there was a nice asian hottie shooting an AR15 next to me and, I must say that it was difficult to keep my focus on the target

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