30-30 reload data

[win94]

Need help reloading for 30-30 using xtreme 150gr and LEVERevolution. Loaded with 38grains and tested at 100yr. The loads produced horrible accuracy. I was told that xtreme 308 bullet have a max velocity recommendation????
Like to hear from other who have experience loading using the xtreme and leverevolution powder.................thanks

[choprzrul]

I spent a year developing, testing, developing, testing....

You MUST have a chrony. My inaccuracy with my 30-30 stemmed from velocity spreads ranging up over 200fps. I ended up with 170gr flat point Sierras at +P+ in my trapper model, but I can get sub 1" groups at 50 with my old eyes and iron sights. 12fps spreads now using 748 powder.

Increase charge.weights VERY slowly at and beyond max. I was increasing 2% and then 1% as I saw spreads dropping. Remember, the whole works can exolode if you don't know what you are doing.

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[pisarski]

sounds like you may be pushing those cast and plated bullets to fast keep them under 1800 f.p.s .

[win94]

any recommendation on LVR powder charge since the minimum charge load produces 2300+ velocity.......35grain produces 2300+ ft/s

[russt]

Might need to try a different powder. Call hodgdon and see if that powder is suitable for reduced charge.

[fast54vw]

i use 37 grains of leverevoultion powder under a 150gr corelokt bullet. they are quite accurate in my marlin

[mark501w]

If those are lead bullets your getting into a different type of reloading, the Lyman reloading manual.

[mark501w]

I use jacketed RN or FP 150's, 170's 180's& IMR 3031 Check your case length consistency for a uniform crimp for your tube magazine. Be careful when crimping it's easy to wrinkle the cases with to much crimp.

[3006mv]

Doesn't hornady have a PDF on their bullet?

Also I load extreme plated 150 gr for plinking or small game / 6 gr of red dot or unique

They like H4895.

http://www.marlinowners.com/forum/reloading-sticky-s-only/29333-hornady-s-30-30-ftx-load-data-01-26-09-a-5.html

I like blc2 and TAC

[GeoffLinder]

I always use WW748 for 30-30 and always use jacketed flat points, mostly Sierra. Accuracy is decent. You cannot push plated or cast too fast or accuracy will be for shiite. If using cast lead, a gas check will be needed and velocity should be kept around 1500-1600 max or less. I would not drive plated much faster than that too.

[win94]

xtreme bullets are copper plated bullets. Thus, Sierra 150gr bullet is the closest match to xtreme 150gr FN that I am using. I was hoping there may be someone out there that have worked up a load using LVR and xtreme bullets. I will try to contact Hodgdon.

[3006mv]

oh i didnt know you meant the powder i was thinking of the ftx bullet. you are pushing that plated bullet too fast most likely, thus the poor accuracy, make sure you are not crimping too tight you may have plating separation which may stick in your barrel, check your barrel for any obstruction or plating or copper fouling. i want to say that the max vel. for plated bullets is around 1500 fps or lower (for the handgun bullets). That is why i posted above my load is very conservative at 6 gr. You can up this to 8 gr. but still be under 1500 fps i believe. Any jacketed bullet of the same weight can be pushed much faster, stick with your powder with those bullets. find another powder for the plated.

[win94]

Emailed Hodgdon but still no reply. I am confused, isnt jacketed the same as plated. The difference is what material is use to cover the inner lead????

6grain of LVR for a 150grain copper plated bullet??? The lowest I saw for LVR powder is about 35grain powder charge. CAN someone please explain the large difference between the charge?

[3006mv]

reread my post i was NOT using LVR powder. i was confused by your post and was thinking about their ftx bullet (http://www.hornady.com/store/LEVERevolution-FTX/ they also call their loaded ammo by the same name). I was not using this powder http://www.midwayusa.com/product/100...okeless-powder

Please read and understand post #3. http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494465

plated bullets use a thin copper plate, not the thicker copper jacket. plated bullets are usually loaded to lead velocities (slower than jacketed) unless they have a copper gas check on the bottom of the boolit but that is a whole other matter. plated bullets prevent leading but cannot be pushed too fast b/c separation may occur if crimped too tight etc.
ONLY use that powder on jacketed bullets.

[win94]

reread my post i was NOT using LVR powder. i was confused by your post and was thinking about their ftx bullet (http://www.hornady.com/store/LEVERevolution-FTX/ they also call their loaded ammo by the same name). I was not using this powder http://www.midwayusa.com/product/100...okeless-powder

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494465

plated bullets use a thin copper plate, not the thicker copper jacket. plated bullets are usually loaded to lead velocities (slower than jacketed) unless they have a copper gas check on the bottom of the boolit but that is a whole other matter. plated bullets prevent leading but cannot be pushed too fast b/c separation may occur if crimped too tight etc.
ONLY use that powder on jacketed bullets.

Thanks for the info.........You dont happen to know LVR using 150gr copper plated loads????