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  • Atlast357
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 414

    Percussion caps

    One of my reloading calibers is muzzle loading black powder revolvers,
    that's what got me into the brass cartridge stuffing powder and bullets
    As was the situation with component shortage, now percussion caps are in short supply for us black powder shooters.
    I have an ad running in WTB section, but wanted to see if anyone out there
    might have some you are not using that could be available ?
  • #2
    Divernhunter
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2010
    • 8753

    I have some. What number you looking for?
    A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
    NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
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    • #3
      meaty-btz
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 8980

      You could always roll your own. The forumla is out there and can usually be cooked up with the proper safety precautions. I.E. fume control, flame control, and as long as you are not using Armstrong's mixture you should end up with a stable material. I would not use Armstrong's mixture unless you don't like your fingers. It remains impact sensitive even when in an emulsion. The other mixture when emulsified in an alcohol base can be safely packed into the percussion cap and let to dry where it becomes sensitive again.

      By Weight:

      Potassium Chlorate 50
      antimony sulfide 27
      sulfur 9
      sodium bicarb 1 (used as an sacrificial agent to extend shelf life)
      powdered glass (silicate) 12
      shellac 2

      use denatured alcohol to emulsify the mixture and pack into a metal cap, let dry. In this day and age it seems to behoove people to know how to make everything from scratch because I have a feeling these shortages may never fully go away at this point. Black Powder is fun to make as well.

      Note this "percussion cap" mixture can be used in smokeless primers and it usually works out well enough.
      Last edited by meaty-btz; 08-26-2013, 12:30 PM.
      ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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      • #4
        Atlast357
        Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 414

        Originally posted by Divernhunter
        I have some. What number you looking for?
        Would like to have #10 for my 1858 Remington.

        Send me a PM let me know .Thanks

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        • #5
          Swagman00
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 4149

          Originally posted by meaty-btz
          You could always roll your own. The forumla is out there and can usually be cooked up with the proper safety precautions. I.E. fume control, flame control, and as long as you are not using Armstrong's mixture you should end up with a stable material. I would not use Armstrong's mixture unless you don't like your fingers. It remains impact sensitive even when in an emulsion. The other mixture when emulsified in an alcohol base can be safely packed into the percussion cap and let to dry where it becomes sensitive again.

          By Weight:

          Potassium Chlorate 50
          antimony sulfide 27
          sulfur 9
          sodium bicarb 1 (used as an sacrificial agent to extend shelf life)
          powdered glass (silicate) 12
          shellac 2

          use denatured alcohol to emulsify the mixture and pack into a metal cap, let dry. In this day and age it seems to behoove people to know how to make everything from scratch because I have a feeling these shortages may never fully go away at this point. Black Powder is fun to make as well.

          Note this "percussion cap" mixture can be used in smokeless primers and it usually works out well enough.
          Do you think this can work for homemade berdan primers?

          Just thinking out of the box. Not feeling daring.
          Last edited by Swagman00; 08-27-2013, 9:00 AM.
          Anyway...here's a dearth of reasoning to ponder: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Guns

          Originally posted by movie zombie
          and you guys wonder why women are fed up with bad behavior?!

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          • #6
            Atlast357
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 414

            Where would you get empty caps to load the solution?

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44093

              Someplace, I have dies to make my own caps from aluminum cans.
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              • #8
                Atlast357
                Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 414

                Could that die be called Tap-O-Cap or something like that ?

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                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44093

                  Originally posted by Atlast357
                  Could that die be called Tap-O-Cap or something like that ?
                  To be honest, I don't know what it's called. I picked it up in a bunch of stuff for free. I've never used it because, I have a couple rolls of caps right now. But, for SHTF reasons, I have no desire to part with it.
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                  • #10
                    meaty-btz
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 8980

                    Yup, it is called Tap-o-Cap. Sort of similar to the Free-chex. Makes caps out of aluminum cans.

                    @swagman.. never tried it. The real essence of it boils down to.. does it create enough flame to ignite the powdercharge without "overdoing it". If the answer is yes, it will work. I would gather that the answer is indeed, yes.

                    Remember you can load a 9mm cartridge with 4F BP and it will barely cycle the slide in a glock but the round will be accurate. The point is that firearms are surprisingly simple, as long as you are not "overcharging" and "over pressuring" they will generally function quite well on a variety of powder and primer types. The goal with our boutique powders and manufactured primers is consistent safety. However in SHTF, yes, your 9mm can work with 4F BP.

                    Oh and for potassium Chlorate the hard way:



                    Amazon delivers the Antimony Sulfide (III) and sulfur






                    I am pretty sure you can get the shellac and the powdered glass/silicate and the sodium bicarb on your own.
                    Last edited by meaty-btz; 08-27-2013, 2:18 PM.
                    ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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