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  • Timmm
    Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 141

    Cant' get a consistent OAL on LNL AP

    Started loading 223, LNL will not maintain constant length, jumps between 2.260-2.240. Have tighten base plate, trimmed casing cleaned Hornady seating die but have not been able to make two bullets the same size. I am not looking for 1000th degree perfection, would like to do better than this. Am I missing something? thanks
  • #2
    Bornonthe4thofJuly
    Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 241

    You might have a warped shell plate or not machined true?

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    • #3
      A and O
      Member
      • Apr 2013
      • 158

      In addition to the 4th's idea.

      What Bullet are you using and what seating die are you using?

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      • #4
        Swaydude
        CGSSA Associate
        • Oct 2012
        • 78

        I believe that it's ok. Don't use oal for the rifle rounds. You need to measure using a bullet comparer, which measures to the ogive (sp). Even with factory rounds, you'll get that difference.

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        • #5
          Timmm
          Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 141

          Hornady dies/ 224 55gr Hornady. Also borrowed a Dillon seating Die and a different Plate, same problem. Whats a bullet comparer. Thanks

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          • #6
            cpatbay
            Senior Member
            • May 2011
            • 1631

            OAL will vary. Not a big deal. It's the distance to the ogive that matters.
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            • #7
              LynnJr
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2013
              • 7958

              Its called a Comparator and in the enclosed picture I am using two of them to measure the bullets bearing surface.
              You would use only one for measuring seating depth and you should get a variation of less than 0.003 pretty easy.
              Last edited by LynnJr; 12-08-2013, 8:09 AM.
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              • #8
                CEDaytonaRydr
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 4141

                Originally posted by cpatbay
                OAL will vary. Not a big deal. It's the distance to the ogive that matters.
                ^^This

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                • #9
                  Swaydude
                  CGSSA Associate
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 78

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                  • #10
                    Timmm
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 141

                    Thanks guys, think I have it, off to Cabelas for another 50 buck tool. Tim

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                    • #11
                      RugerNo1
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1644

                      If you are crimping while seating that may be your problem. When I tried to seat and crimp on the same step I always had erratic COLs so if I am crimping I use a separate step.
                      Dane

                      For the Learned Rifleman

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                      • #12
                        Timmm
                        Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 141

                        Didnt' have a whole lot of luck with Hornady combination seating crimping die, went to the Lee crimping die, in a separate hole.

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                        • #13
                          checkenbach
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 1440

                          Try tightening the two allen bolts on the side of the ram that the plate head fits on. I measured the gap between the shell plate and plate head, it was .009" different on the left side(where I seat and crimp).
                          I found the left side ram bolt quite loose, tightened it up, now it's at an acceptable .004". You cannot have zero clearance because the case head rides on top of the plate head.
                          Also this link may help http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_42/34...ue_fixed_.html if you want to go deep, or nothing else has worked...
                          Last edited by checkenbach; 08-24-2013, 6:17 PM.

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                          • #14
                            slixx1320
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 643

                            When you are setting up your dies you have to utilize all the empty slots on the shell holder. What you are seeing is a slight tilt on the shell plate which is giving you inconsistent OAL because you most likely set up your dies as a single stage (one by one).

                            Try setting your seating die to your desired OAL with all empty slots on the shell plate filled with brass. My bro ran into the same issue and filling the empty spaces, after that he got nothing but consistent OAL.

                            See if that helps!

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