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  • armyguy209
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 335

    ejection problem(solved)

    Ok I have loaded up a few thousand rounds now on my 1050. All of them go through a case gauge with no problems and they shoot flawlessly. I have worked up my loads and got them perfected with almost 1/2-1" MOA at 100yards. They eject fine when I am shooting. The only problem I notice is that if I stop shooting and still have a round in the chamber,it is a little hard to eject. I really have to pull the charging handle hard to get it out. Any ideas?

    Once again though, the OAL is perfect, they case gauge perfect, and they eject while shooting perfectly. Should I readjust my full length sizing die down even more even though they are case gauging fine?
    Last edited by armyguy209; 08-21-2013, 7:38 AM.
  • #2
    tiller
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 794

    Your leaving a cold round in a hot chamber... Then your allowing it to cool down and shrink while the brass is also expanding.... Not a loading issue...


    Just dont leave a live round in the chamber... Also that should be rule #1 in gun safety
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    • #3
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6593

      Rounds stay in the gun all the time during training events.

      Yes, they case gauge fine but sometimes barrel chambers are tighter than gauges.

      Do they slip in and out of the chamber fine?
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      • #4
        J-cat
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2005
        • 6626

        U overcrimped, buckling the case slightly, and its wedging in the chamber.

        Or, u did not bump the shoulder back enough and there isn't enough clearance between the bolt face and the case, causing the bolt to close hard.

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        • #5
          Davisje011
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 556

          Small base dies or full length? this may be one of the rare times when it matters.
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          • #6
            armyguy209
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 335

            Well I don't leave a round in the chamber either here at home or at the range. Any time I set the gun down to look through my spotting scope, I always drop the mag and eject the round. It is still hot so that takes out that factor of things. I am using a full length sizing die. The bullets are 55gr Hornady FMJBT with cannalure. However, it did the same thing with my 55gr Zmax and Vmax.

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            • #7
              J-cat
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2005
              • 6626

              Just because you use a FL die don't mean your cases are being sized correctly. Did you crimp slightly? How did you adjust the seater die?

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              • #8
                armyguy209
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 335

                I did crimp. I check my cases when setting up the sizing die with a case gauge and they all come out perfect in the case gauge. The seater die is a redding comp seating die. I installed it per manufacture recommendation, then would seat a bullet, take it off and measure, make adjustments, measure again until the OAL was where it was supposed to be. Then I would measure every 5-10 rounds as I would press until I was comfortable that it was consistent.

                Maybe I have the crimp set too much.

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                • #9
                  mark501w
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1699

                  Back off crimp , shoot it for a awhile. If you still have a problem small base size.

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                  • #10
                    J-cat
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2005
                    • 6626

                    Originally posted by armyguy209
                    I did crimp. I check my cases when setting up the sizing die with a case gauge and they all come out perfect in the case gauge. The seater die is a redding comp seating die. I installed it per manufacture recommendation, then would seat a bullet, take it off and measure, make adjustments, measure again until the OAL was where it was supposed to be. Then I would measure every 5-10 rounds as I would press until I was comfortable that it was consistent.

                    Maybe I have the crimp set too much.
                    Take a FL sized case and chamber it using the forward assist. If the bolt closes easily then it's not the FL die setting.

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                    • #11
                      armyguy209
                      Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 335

                      Let me revise just a bit to make sure I am making sense.

                      So the problem occurs with a whole, completed round, still in the chamber. So say I load a magazine with 5 rounds. I shoot 4 of them and the 5th round enters the chamber. I choose not to shoot it so I pull the charging handle to eject the whole, unfired round. This is when the charging handle takes some effort to eject the unfired round.

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                      • #12
                        armyguy209
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 335

                        Originally posted by J-cat
                        Take a FL sized case and chamber it using the forward assist. If the bolt closes easily then it's not the FL die setting.
                        It chambers just fine. It is just the getting out the unfired round that takes some muscle.

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                        • #13
                          wxl
                          Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 240

                          Could be just a dirty chamber.

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                          • #14
                            Enfield47
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 6385

                            How does it do with factory ammo? Do you have the same problem? If so, it's not your die settings, it's your gun's chamber which might be short. When you get the round out do you see any marks on the bullet around the ogive? Try coloring one of your bullets black with a sharpie and see if it is making contact with the lands. If it is the black will be worn off where contact was made.

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                            • #15
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7958

                              Take one round that is ready to fire and pull the bullet with a pair of pliers.Dump out the powder and drop it in your chamber after shooting 4 shots and let the bolt close on it.
                              Wait your normal interval and see if it pulls right out or requires extra effort.
                              If it pulls right out your bullets are into the lands and this is making extraction more difficult.
                              If it is tough to open your headspace needs a little bit more clearance.
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