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  • Santa Cruz Armory
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 4357

    Reloading Wolf steel cases (Info)

    Well, while prepping some Wolf steel cases I made a discovery... There are different size primers and that the larger primers are Berdan, therefore not reloadable. The primer holes are about 20-25 thousandths different.



    During this discovery I also found out that my Lee decapping/ sizing die will actually "install" a boxer flash hole. Don't try this too many times...



    It looks like you can tell the difference in cases by the size of the primer and by the "DOT" after the REM.



    Like I said, your dies won't be happy if you try to make boxer flash holes!



    I haven't tried to prime any yet. I'll repost with the info on which primers the re loadable cases take.
    Last edited by Santa Cruz Armory; 05-31-2008, 6:10 PM.
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    jandmtv
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2007
    • 5800

    Dude, just be carefull!
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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57117

      Originally posted by BLFD1
      Like I said, your dies won't be happy if you try to make boxer flash holes!

      I have done this a few times with 9mm and I have never broken the decapping pin.
      Of course I run Dillon dies which have a pretty tough pin.
      I do notice the case is considerably harder to size when you are also punching the anvil out of the primer pocket with the decapping pin.
      Randall Rausch

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      • #4
        Santa Cruz Armory
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 4357

        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        I have done this a few times with 9mm and I have never broken the decapping pin.
        Of course I run Dillon dies which have a pretty tough pin.
        I do notice the case is considerably harder to size when you are also punching the anvil out of the primer pocket with the decapping pin.
        I didn't break it with the case, I broke it trying to bend it back to straight.
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        • #5
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57117

          Originally posted by BLFD1
          I didn't break it with the case, I broke it trying to bend it back to straight.
          Oh, gotcha.
          The dillon decapping pin has never bent, even after making a few boxer cases.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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          • #6
            hybridatsun350
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 5336

            Originally posted by ar15barrels
            Oh, gotcha.
            The dillon decapping pin has never bent, even after making a few boxer cases.
            With the price of Lee dies you can afford to buy a few extra decapping pins.
            Dom

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            • #7
              Santa Cruz Armory
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 4357

              Originally posted by hybridatsun350
              With the price of Lee dies you can afford to buy a few extra decapping pins.
              I bought a few more
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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57117

                Originally posted by hybridatsun350
                With the price of Lee dies you can afford to buy a few extra decapping pins.
                With the price of a Hundai, you can afford a few more gallons of gas too.
                This does not stop people from buying nice cars though.

                People who appreciate quality will generally spend more on whatever it is they are buying.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                • #9
                  Chief-7700
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 3382

                  Why?????????

                  Why??? They are junk!! I don't even pick them up for for reloading, however I do pick them up and toss them into the scrap steel bucket. Will all the pressure to go GREEN I do my part.
                  Chief-7700

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                  • #10
                    Santa Cruz Armory
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 4357

                    I've never had one break. It was my fault...I didn't know that some were Berdan primed....OOPS!! my bad! The dies have been great till then. I feel that they are good quality for the $17.00
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                    • #11
                      Roccobro
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 2907

                      I have chatted with some users on THR that have reloaded Wolf cases before for fun. One guy had reloaded cases 5x and hadn't seen a rupture. He tossed them at that point anyways as there were plenty more free ones everywhere....

                      I wanted to buy some Wolf 30 carbine and put a HP bullet in the case for some cheap SHTF ammo. Then I found some LC unfired brass for $60/k and ditched the Wolf stuff all together.

                      Good luck with the reloading of steel cases. It can be done, but they are a different animal than brass, so proceed with caution.

                      Justin
                      For any questions contact me by email.
                      Thanks,
                      Justin
                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      Sometimes, arguing just for the sake of arguing, can be fun.
                      Originally posted by DannyZRC
                      no it can't!
                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      YES IT CAN!
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                      • #12
                        xrMike
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 7841

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        People who appreciate quality will generally spend more on whatever it is they are buying.
                        Now that's just the talking right there.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57117

                          Originally posted by xrMike
                          Now that's just the talking right there.

                          I also buy Starrett and Mitutoyo measuring tools when chi-com imports would work too.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            Roccobro
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 2907

                            If I had a bunch of disposable income, I too would buy only the best of everything.

                            But even after working in a machine shop for a few years, I still only use the imitation Starrett calipers that have survived more abuse than the Starrett's themselves could take in my short time there. And yes, the cheap ones held their accuracy too.

                            Justin
                            For any questions contact me by email.
                            Thanks,
                            Justin
                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            Sometimes, arguing just for the sake of arguing, can be fun.
                            Originally posted by DannyZRC
                            no it can't!
                            Originally posted by ar15barrels
                            YES IT CAN!
                            "Pink rifle disease... SPREAD IT!"

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                            • #15
                              diginit
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3250

                              What makes you think you can't reload Berdan. Drive a screw into the primer. Just don't go too deep and make sure the primer in dead first. They pull right out, You've already got the die you can pull the pin on.

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