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  • Zamble
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 2354

    RT1200 problem

    I was checking my brass length after processing it.

    1. 1.736
    2. 1.736
    3. 1.746
    4. 1.737
    5. 1.736
    6. 1.737
    7. 1.737
    8. 1.742
    9. 1.746
    10. 1.748
    11. 1.739

    Ok, I understand the 1.736 and 1.737 are very close. But why such variations? Should not every one be that close? The 1.748, I ran it through a second time and it did not trim any off. For what it matters the ones above 1.737 I ran through a second time and not change.

    The first thing I checked was to make sure that everything was tight and then I re-lubed everything. Same results.

    Any suggestions?
  • #2
    Bigtls1
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 579

    Is it all the same headstand? Varying headstamps will give you some variation I believe.

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    • #3
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6597

      What brand caliper are you using? Most are only rated to the hundredth.

      Maybe the shoulders are not being bumped back consistently.

      But the thousandth doesn't matter anyway.
      Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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      • #4
        Zamble
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 2354

        All the headstamps are federal.

        I am using the Dillon digital caliper.

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        • #5
          Solus
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 548

          You might need to adjust it a bit more. 1.738 is way to small or m length should be between 1.740-1.750. 1.740 being the absolute minimum case lentgh
          On the blue side

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          • #6
            tiller
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 794

            Everything is not tight if you are getting that much variation...

            Max you should get is .003- soo set it 1.752 and the lowest you should see is 1.749 max of 1.752 Maybe even 1.753
            .223 & .308 brass processing

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            • #7
              74c5
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 323

              Temperature? Everything changes as a function of temperature.

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              • #8
                joelogic
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 6597

                Originally posted by Solus
                You might need to adjust it a bit more. 1.738 is way to small or m length should be between 1.740-1.750. 1.740 being the absolute minimum case lentgh
                There really is no minimum. If you measure once fired .223 you will often find pieces under 1.735".
                Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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                • #9
                  EL_NinO619
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1519

                  Are you resizing first then just bumping the shoulders a little with the trim die? If the trim die does all the work it tends to give you those variances.
                  se carga el diablo de la pistola...
                  .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
                  On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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                  • #10
                    tiller
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 794

                    Originally posted by 74c5
                    Temperature? Everything changes as a function of temperature.
                    Temperature does nothing to something mechanical
                    .223 & .308 brass processing

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                    • #11
                      Zamble
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 2354

                      I took it all apart and everything including the cutter was tight. I will run a few through when I get back home.

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                      • #12
                        joelogic
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2008
                        • 6597

                        Why chase trim length when there are so many other things to chase?

                        Neck thickness
                        Run out
                        Primer pocket uniformity
                        Flash hole
                        Meplat trimming
                        Anneling
                        Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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                        • #13
                          EL_NinO619
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1519

                          Originally posted by joelogic
                          Why chase trim length when there are so many other things to chase?

                          Neck thickness
                          Run out
                          Primer pocket uniformity
                          Flash hole
                          Meplat trimming
                          Anneling
                          IMHO if your trimming with a RT1200 you really shouldn't be worrying about any of those much (your not loading BR ammo) Make sure its under max and above min. Those small variance are not much to worry about for bulk loading.
                          se carga el diablo de la pistola...
                          .223, .25acp, 25-20win, 9mm, 38spl/.357, 10mm .308, 8mm M, 7mm Rem Mag, 45acp, .475 Wildey mag
                          On 2 Hornady LnL AP & Dillon Super 1050

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                          • #14
                            Zamble
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 2354

                            Well I ran some more after making sure it was all tight. There is like a .011 variation. I understand that it be within the min and max, but I want to understand why the variation is so great.

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                            • #15
                              tiller
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 794

                              Originally posted by Zamble
                              Well I ran some more after making sure it was all tight. There is like a .011 variation. I understand that it be within the min and max, but I want to understand why the variation is so great.
                              Is your tool head tightened down all the way? Shell plate too?

                              Also like asked before are you sizing after trimming? Do you still have it set up the way when I came down?
                              .223 & .308 brass processing

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