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  • jetman624
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 514

    Long Range .223

    I have a Remington 700P in with a 26, 1:9 twist barel. Can someone give me a starting point for a load that will get me out to 3-400 yards?
  • #2
    BLR81
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 347

    Originally posted by jetman624
    I have a Remington 700P in with a 26, 1:9 twist barel. Can someone give me a starting point for a load that will get me out to 3-400 yards?
    Any load will get you out to 400 yds. People shoot 22lr out to 300+ yds. the question is what do you want the bullet to do when it gets there. Punch a hole in paper or take down a Elk.

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    • #3
      damndave
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2008
      • 10858

      What bullet and powder?

      Just about any 223 round will gets hits at 300-400 yrds.

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      • #4
        CobraRed
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 1018

        I've shot alongside my buddies' 16" AR15's at the 500 yard line many many times w/ handloaded longer bullets.

        Much past that it gets a little hairy, but with your set-up you should be sitting pretty.

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        • #5
          GeoffLinder
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 2425

          My advice if you want good performance in the wind is to use a match grade 69gr bullet like the Sierra SMK 69. Load it hot with Varget powder. Do good case prep and find a charge weight that performs best in your rifle.

          Yes, you can get good performance with a 55gr at 300-400 yards, but they will be shedding velocity faster than a 69gr (lower BC) so you will get better performance in the wind with the 69gr. Not shooting in much wind and 55gr's will perform very well at up to 400. Much past 450-500 yards and they will be starting to go subsonic from the extra drag though.

          The 1:9 barrel won't work well with anything heavier than a 69-70gr bullet.

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          • #6
            milotrain
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4301

            I'd get a sample of some heavy bullets. There have been reports of 1:9 barrels being able to stabilize them. This is by far the exception rather than the rule. The VLD bullets (A-max as well) will have a smaller bearing surface than a traditional HPBT profile, which may assist you in shooting them through a gun with a faster twist, but be warned that they are fairly jump sensitive.

            69gr Nosler Custom Competition
            70gr Berger VLD
            73gr Berger Target Boat Tail
            75gr Berger VLD
            75gr Hornady A-Max
            75gr Hornady HPBT match
            77gr Nosler Custom Competition
            77gr Sierra Match King
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            frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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            • #7
              707electrician
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2889

              I shoot my 20" AR15 service rifle out to 800 yards with 80gr SMKs no problem.
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              • #8
                milotrain
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 4301

                But we don't shoot 1:9s in highpower and the 80gr SMK won't shoot in a 1:9.
                weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                • #9
                  GeoffLinder
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2425

                  Originally posted by 707electrician
                  I shoot my 20" AR15 service rifle out to 800 yards with 80gr SMKs no problem.
                  With a 1;7 twist barrel I bet

                  OP has 1:9 twist FYI

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                  • #10
                    BrianRodela
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 607

                    69 SMK or 70 VLD
                    23.5 gn AR-Comp or 24.5 gn Reloader 15
                    Primer, take your pick
                    2.250 COAL
                    Should be around 2930 fps.
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                    • #11
                      707electrician
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2889

                      Originally posted by milotrain
                      But we don't shoot 1:9s in highpower and the 80gr SMK won't shoot in a 1:9.
                      I must have missed that part

                      Originally posted by GeoffLinder
                      With a 1;7 twist barrel I bet

                      OP has 1:9 twist FYI
                      Mines a 1:8 wylde.

                      Regardless, 3-400 yards should be no problem with the 69SMKs
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                      • #12
                        milotrain
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 4301

                        Regardless, 3-400 yards should be no problem with the 69SMKs
                        Agreed
                        weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
                        frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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                        • #13
                          Stockton
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1316

                          26" 1:9 bolt gun in 223 to get to 400?

                          55 or 62 will do just fine
                          http://youtu.be/7Ii2kyQP-Is

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                          • #14
                            huckberry668
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1502

                            Most people under estimate 223/556 capabilities... or their ownrifle skills. We shot out to 600+ yards at 9" targets and accomplished nearly 100% hits after sight-inyou by a couple of first time shooters off bipods last week.

                            The load was 55gr Hornady fmj atop 26 gr Varget.
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                            • #15
                              707electrician
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 2889

                              Originally posted by huckberry668
                              Most people under estimate 223/556 capabilities...
                              This is absolutely true. Many people don't realize that .223 and .308 have very similar trajectories
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