dillon 650 vs 1050

[coltn46920]

What is is included in a xl 650 that makes it caliber specific?

I found one that is 222 caliber but it also says .223/556

Can I use that one to reload 5.56/.223?

I finally have enough for a xl 650 but am wondering if I should save for a super 1050?

With all the bells and whistles the 650 comes close to the cost of a super 1050.

I know once I get the hang of reloading I will want the super 1050.

Not only that but all the 650 upgrades are overwhelming and the 1050 mostly comes with everything and has more stations to boot.

I plan on reloading exclusively .223/5.56 for a while till I get the hang of reloading and then even after that still exclusively for a while .223/5.56.

Then after a long time maybe 9mm,.308,.45acp

[Baboosh]

Interested also. I'll be reloading 9mm, 45acp, 308 and 223.

I want the most fluid method one can get.

[Zamble]

I just got into reloading myself as well. I bought the 1050. The 650 offers cheaper conversion to other calibers. With the 1050 most people prefer to have the quick conversion kit. That's the head and powder dispenser, it's cost alone is nearly $300. The conversion kit to a different caliber is $79 I believe. Some will tell you one is better than another. Go buy what you want and can afford. When I got the 1050, I figured buy once cry once. I was not disappointed. The only thing I would have changed, would be to buy the Girard brass trimmer and not the RT1200. It kind of defeats the purpose of speed when you still need to deburr and chamfer the brass after you trim it.

[Cummins_Powered]

From what I understand. The 1050 is very commercially oriented. Ie, you reload for a business and do only ONE caliber on it. I hear it is more intensive to set up compared to the quick change 650. Plus the 1050 I don't think comes with a lifetime warranty, whereas the 650 does.

I'd go 650 from the various things if read from owners of both.

I can't imagine only loading ONE caliber on a machine (unless of course I have multiple presses for each caliber)

[Zamble]

One of the nice things about the 1050 is the built in swage. I bought some once fired 9mm brass and I didn't know the primers were crimped. It's like that infomercial set and forget it for that caliber. I didn't know at that time that some pistol brass would have crimped primers. The 650 does not have a built I. Swage like the 1050.

[Zamble]

To convert to another caliber took me a few minutes without reading the directions. It is not difficult nor meant for one caliber. You run a bunch in one caliber then switch to another when you finish.

[shooting4life]

How much do you shoot

[BigBronco]

Keep in mind that the 1050 being a commercial grade machine it is not covered by the famous Dillon lifetime NO BS warranty. Only one or two years. Not lifetime.

[tiller]

Just fyi-

A full caliber conversion for a 1050 is about 600 after shipping... Where your standard 650 press alone is about 600...

Just a little comparison for you

[EL_NinO619]

The answer is in my sig. Unless you plan on getting another progressive besides the 1050 to load all your other calibers. I would get a 650.

[ExtremeX]

Interested also. I'll be reloading 9mm, 45acp, 308 and 223.

I want the most fluid method one can get.

Considering the case prep required for rifle cases… if you want fluid… get more than one progressive press…

You can dedicate one press to case prep for lube, sizing, trimming, and a 1050 if for loading if you really don’t want to swage off press.

Personally I think 1050 speaks to single caliber volume reloaders… not my first choice for someone who often changes calibers.

[EL_NinO619]

I just did my first change over on the 1050. 36 minutes and I was watching the video playing and pausing threw each step. Its really not that hard, with regular practice I am positive it can be done in 20 minutes. Is it pulling a couple pins, hell no, but its not as a lot of people describe (a absolute nightmare). No if you are totally not mechanically inclined, pass. But I am with extreme. A 1050 can be your main press, but to quickly load odd ball calipers and not pay $400 a toolhead, Another PP is needed. Also prep work on a progressive is the BOMB, once you do it you will know why. To prep on a PP is worth the $450 alone.

[ExtremeX]

1050, 650, or other… I think the decision is pretty personal.. a lot of it has to do with how you reload, and how much you reload, and what type of workflow fits your needs when looking at progressives… They all tend to do things a little different…

If you are setting up a 1050 to do a bucket of 9mm one day, then switch to another caliber for another day, then it might be the press for you.

When I load pistol I tend to switch often, and load multiple calibers in one day… Fast, painless, and cost effective calibers changes was my goal with pistol ammo and I went with a RCBS Pro 2000 just for that reason. Probably no more than 5 min to go from caliber to caliber. Great option to someone who has no plans for a case feeder or doesn’t want the complexity and cost associated with it, and was also considering a 550. From a cost standpoint, easy to afford when you start looking at caliber conversions for a 1050.

[bubbapug1]

A 650 cannot decrimp military brass, a 1050 can.

Otherwise they are the same machine, so if you plan on doing a lot of case prep of crimped cases, the 1050 is the way to go, if not a 650 will suffice.

They are both nice, but a 1050 is smoother and more expensive to do caliber changes on.

However, you cannot process 1000 cases an hour of brass on a 650....

[XDRoX]