Need data for 357 180 grain

[hundy]

I have Hornady 38 cal xtp's 180 grain. I am reloading 357 mag.
I have 3 different reference manuals and have looked on the hodgdon website and cannot find any data for the powder I have.
I currently have: Universal, Clays, and Win 231.
Does anyone have any data that supports those bullets with those powders? I know I can buy other powder, but lately that is easier said than done. I would like to reload these, so I can go to the range.

Thank you

Jay

[ArtP88]

The powders you have are too fast for that bullet in that caliber.

H110, W296, N110, IMR 4227, AA2400 are all suitable and similar.

Right now, N110 and 4227 are pretty easy to get and W296 isn't too hard to get either. Generally speaking the faster powders you have are in more demand.

I happen to really like N110 because there isn't as much blast and flash. N110 is in stock at Powder Valley and many other places. If you want to shoot jacketed magnum loads in any 357 weight, you're going to need one of the powders I listed.

[at_liberty]

The powders you have are too fast for that bullet in that caliber.

H110, W296, N110, IMR 4227, AA2400 are all suitable and similar.

Right now, N110 and 4227 are pretty easy to get and W296 isn't too hard to get either. Generally speaking the faster powders you have are in more demand.

I happen to really like N110 because there isn't as much blast and flash. N110 is in stock at Powder Valley and many other places. If you want to shoot jacketed magnum loads in any 357 weight, you're going to need one of the powders I listed.

These powders, except AA2400, would require magnum primers. The faster powders he wants to use, probably not.

[milotrain]

I like SR4759 and N110 for 180gr cast bullets. Unique measured badly for me so I sold off what I had, 231 I keep for light bullets in .357. I always use magnum primers in .357, regardless of the powder choice, it's a pretty large case for whatever powder ends up in there.

[hundy]

Success found 296

Well after posting, I ran over to my local gun store to see if I could find powder or lower grain bullets. It took me 3 months of going everyday on my day off to find a pound of Universal. I walked in and found a pound of 296 in less than 10 minutes. Last two days they had zero powder. I got lucky. I will try to load these on Sunday, for I have wasted most to this day and work for the next two.
Thank all who replied and gave information I really appreciate it.

Jay

[gemoose23]

Glad you found some powder.....

You are experiencing why most "experienced" reloaders stick to a given load and just crank it out by the ammo can full.

1. Allows them to buy in bulk on the components they use.
2. Running out of your recipe components just sucks.

[ArtP88]

Even if you went for lighter bullets, at 357 velocities, the slower powders mentioned are better suited. With 125 gr XTP's I still like N110, H110, W296.

H110 and W296 are the same powder marketed under different names. Some load books give different load data for each powder (different lots I suspect), which would lead one to believe they're different. However, Hodgdon, who sells and markets both powders has the exact same load data for each powder in every caliber. A phone call to Hodgdon will confirm this.

If you'll allow me to ramble a bit; I can't stand the way H110/W296 meter but it does usually offer the fastest velocity. I prefer N110 as it meters better for me and definitely does have less flash and blast and comes very close to H110/W296 velocity. As an added bonus, it's still available for purchase.

[wtkaiser]

Seriously? A complaint about H-110 metering? Wait until you get to some of the IMR powders!

[ArtP88]

It meters accurately, it just makes a mess and is too fine and gets into the moving parts of my thrower. It's consistent enough, just messy.