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  • biogenic
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 640

    357 mag mid range loads...

    Anyone load mid range 357mag ? Was thinking of using some TG, BE and some Unique to test some loads...

    I normally use 12.3gr #9 for my full house loads but I want to tone it down some
    WTB S&W 29/629 - 44mag 4" / Colt Commander 70 series


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    Cowboy T
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 5725

    Sure! TG and BE are two very good powders for this. You might give 5.0gr of Bullseye with a 158gr bullet (jacketed or cast) a try. Feels just about like the .38 Special +P+ loads (the so-called "FBI" loads). With Titegroup, 5.5gr should give you similar results.
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    • #3
      biogenic
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 640

      Originally posted by Cowboy T
      Sure! TG and BE are two very good powders for this. You might give 5.0gr of Bullseye with a 158gr bullet (jacketed or cast) a try. Feels just about like the .38 Special +P+ loads (the so-called "FBI" loads). With Titegroup, 5.5gr should give you similar results.

      Would 4gr of BE and 4.5 TG be too light ? ( shooting 158 swc
      WTB S&W 29/629 - 44mag 4" / Colt Commander 70 series


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      • #4
        Bill Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5028

        Originally posted by biogenic
        Would 4gr of BE and 4.5 TG be too light ? ( shooting 158 swc
        4gr of BE will work great, nice 38spl +P level load.
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        • #5
          biogenic
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 640

          Originally posted by Bill Steele
          4gr of BE will work great, nice 38spl +P level load.
          Have a lot of that
          WTB S&W 29/629 - 44mag 4" / Colt Commander 70 series


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          • #6
            Cowboy T
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            • Mar 2010
            • 5725

            Yep, that'd work great, too. Remember, your gun is a .357 Magnum, so you've got a fair amount of flexibility to play with. Just don't go below the minimum .38 Special charges, and you'll be fine.
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            • #7
              Bill Steele
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 5028

              Originally posted by biogenic
              Have a lot of that
              Figured you'd be on another 8lb'er by now.

              Ever get that Glock fixed?
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              • #8
                biogenic
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 640

                Originally posted by Bill Steele
                Figured you'd be on another 8lb'er by now.

                Ever get that Glock fixed?
                Yup.. Glock took care of it.
                WTB S&W 29/629 - 44mag 4" / Colt Commander 70 series


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                • #9
                  russt
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 1039

                  i run tg at 4.8gr with a 158gr lswc. when working this load i started at 4.5gr and the groups werent tight enough, at 4.7-5.0gr my groups were good enough for me so i stuck with 4.8gr. ive shot about 300 of these and i have no complaints.

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                  • #10
                    rm1911
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 4073

                    any 38 special/38 special +p load will work fine in a 357. don't run lead bullets too hot. leading can suck. also, try to avoid using lead bullets and 38 special brass in 357's. lots of leading in front of forcing cone, makes loading 357 rounds very difficult. and it's a b**** to clean.

                    I like blue dot. also #5. BE is a great versatile powder.
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                    • #11
                      biogenic
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 640

                      Originally posted by rm1911
                      any 38 special/38 special +p load will work fine in a 357. don't run lead bullets too hot. leading can suck. also, try to avoid using lead bullets and 38 special brass in 357's. lots of leading in front of forcing cone, makes loading 357 rounds very difficult. and it's a b**** to clean.

                      I like blue dot. also #5. BE is a great versatile powder.
                      Thanks for the tips. I am running hard cast bullets since I'll drive those at about 1000 fps or more. Like you said I ran some 38 spl with lead in my 357 and it took me 2 hours to clean it... No more 38 spl in my 357... I'll use my 38s to run 38spl...
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                      • #12
                        sghart
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1271

                        After years of top end loads in my N frame I wanted the same thing that you are looking for. After testing several loads I settled on two that are very accurate, not punishing and still deliver respectable performance. The first is a 158 gr bullet, jacketed or cast, over 11 gr of Accurate #7. This load goes 1150 fps out of my 6" model 28 for jacketed, slightly faster for cast SWC. My second favorite load is the same bullets over 14 gr of 2400, same chrono results. I also shoot them out of rifles, excellent accuracy to 75-80 yards. note: standard primers, magnum not necessary

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                        • #13
                          Fishslayer
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                          • Jan 2010
                          • 13035

                          Originally posted by biogenic
                          Would 4gr of BE and 4.5 TG be too light ? ( shooting 158 swc
                          4gr of Green Dot (close to BE) under a 158gr LSWC in a magnum case is my standard target load. Just a little more "pop" than powderpuff .38SP. Maybe a +P.


                          Originally posted by rm1911
                          lots of leading in front of forcing cone, makes loading 357 rounds very difficult. and it's a b**** to clean.
                          The previous owner of my M28-2 obviously shot a LOT of .38 in the gun before selling it. A lightly flared .357 case makes a nice scraper for the cylinder.

                          Still took two days of scrubbing & soaking to get all the crud out.
                          Last edited by Fishslayer; 05-06-2013, 1:00 PM.
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                          • #14
                            Wonno
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                            • Apr 2013
                            • 18

                            I run about 5.5 gr unique with magnum primers, or 5.8 with regular SPP. Hits about 1k to 1.1k FPS off a 4incher.

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                            • #15
                              thomashoward
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                              6.5 unique w 158 gr cast
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