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  • emc002
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 2331

    Hornady LNL Issue

    Need a little help on an issue that just cropped up with my Hornady LNL.
    I've cleaned the shell plate and base and tried realigning a couple times. Unless the shell plate itself is out of spec, I'm stumped.

    Items in use:
    Hornady LNL AP
    Shell Plate #1
    Hornady New Dimension .45 ACP Dies

    Problem:
    I insert a .45 ACP casing
    I pull the lever to advance the casing to the first station for depriming.
    The casing is severely canted at about a 70~75 degree angle, making it miss entirely the opening of the die.

    I can manually manipulate the casing to set it straight.
    I have not had this problem when reloading .45 LC, but this uses a different shell plate.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

    "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey
  • #2
    Waldog
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 528

    I encountered the same problem while loading 45acp with a number 1 shell holder. Although I only encountered a "tipped" case about every 50 -100 rounds. I think what happens is that the case retainer coil spring gets caught on the edge of the case rim while the shell holder is rotating to the next station. I found that if the shellplate retaing nut was loose it would allow the shellplate to cant out of position and the retaining spring would catch on the rim. Snug up your shell holder nut and see if that helps.

    Also, Hornady makes a #45 shellplate that is made specifically for the 45 ACP. It's demensions are a little tighter than the #1. ALL my case problems went away with when I starting using the #45 and I keep the shellplate nut snug. (Mine seems to loosen up after about 250 round so that I have to retighten periodically)

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    • #3
      ar15barrels
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 57118

      Dare I say it?







































      Get a Dillon 650.
      Randall Rausch

      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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      • #4
        crowbar
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 561

        Though my loading of the .45 on the LNL AP has been limited, I use the #45 shell plate and have no case cant issues so far. For the bolt holding the shellplate, I'm thinking about drilling a hole thru it and inserting a little piece of weed wacker string for a home made nylock - if it ever loosens up on me. I do check it between lots of on hundred cases.

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        • #5
          emc002
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 2331

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          Get a Dillon 650.
          Smarty pants, I have a 550!
          "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

          "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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          • #6
            crowbar
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 561

            Upgrade?

            Originally posted by emc002
            Smarty pants, I have a 550!
            You could upgrade to a LNL AP.

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            • #7
              emc002
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 2331

              Originally posted by crowbar
              You could upgrade to a LNL AP.
              I'm assuming you're making fun of AR15 Barrels, but if you really missed it in my first post
              Originally posted by emc002
              Items in use:
              Hornady LNL AP
              For the record, I have a Hornady LNL AP, Dillon 550, RCBS Rock Chucker. And *gasp* I like them all for different reasons! Shocking, I know! How dare I not like Dillon over Hornady / Remington over Mossberg / Glock over Springfield, etc.
              Now brand bashing and purse swinging for your favorite reloading manufacturer aside...
              Any further help on my question?
              "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

              "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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              • #8
                crowbar
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 561

                Originally posted by emc002
                I'm assuming you're making fun of AR15 Barrels, but if you really missed it in my first post


                For the record, I have a Hornady LNL AP, Dillon 550, RCBS Rock Chucker. And *gasp* I like them all for different reasons! Shocking, I know! How dare I not like Dillon over Hornady / Remington over Mossberg / Glock over Springfield, etc.
                Now brand bashing and purse swinging for your favorite reloading manufacturer aside...
                Any further help on my question?
                oops; posted on the fly. Not brand bashing at all, just next in line to poke some fun at the ongoing red v. blue debate. After many tears of loading pistol rounds on a Lyman Spar-T press and then a Rockchucker, I bought and enjoy my LNL. I still use the RC for rifle, the Lyman is pretty well retired.

                As for the problem with the #1 shell plate and .45 ACP brass, the extractor groove in the cases are quite a bit different from a .45 to say a .308, even tho' the rim diameters are the same. Must be the reason Hornady makes the #45 shellplate. Tell ya what, how about I loan you my #45 shellplate for a test drive ?

                crowbar / Mike

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                • #9
                  emc002
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 2331

                  Originally posted by crowbar
                  Tell ya what, how about I loan you my #45 shellplate for a test drive ?
                  crowbar / Mike
                  Mike,
                  That's a very generous offer and I really appreciate it. But being as you're so far from me, I think I'm going to try the fixes suggested here first, and simultaneously by Shellplate #45.
                  I know #1 works for my .308, so at least I'll get that use out of it!
                  "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

                  "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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                  • #10
                    crowbar
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 561

                    Originally posted by emc002
                    Mike,
                    That's a very generous offer and I really appreciate it. But being as you're so far from me, I think I'm going to try the fixes suggested here first, and simultaneously by Shellplate #45.
                    I know #1 works for my .308, so at least I'll get that use out of it!
                    If you get stuck and can't find the #45 (it took me awhile) let me know. Also, there is some great info on the LNL AP here: http://ezine.m1911.org/HornadyLNL_frame.htm

                    Curious, what powder are you using with the .308 when you load on the AP ?

                    crowbar / Mike

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                    • #11
                      emc002
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 2331

                      Originally posted by crowbar
                      Curious, what powder are you using with the .308 when you load on the AP ?

                      crowbar / Mike
                      Hogdgon Varget
                      "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

                      "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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                      • #12
                        crowbar
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 561

                        Originally posted by emc002
                        Hogdgon Varget
                        So far I'm too chicken to load rifle rounds on my LNL. I also use Varget; 47.0 grains behind a Sierra 155 for Palma matches. I throw light and trickle up on a balance beam. Can the Hornady powder measure throw Varget close enough to load and go ? I might just have to try it with eleven hundred primed cases sittin' on the shelf, and enough Varget and 210M's to load those a couple more times. Sure would save some time...

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                        • #13
                          emc002
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 2331

                          No issues for me with the Hornady Powder measure and Varget. Just be sure to wipe down the outside of the Poweder measure with dryer sheet to reduce static.
                          "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." - William F. Buckley, Jr.

                          "I point out the obvious because if I belabor the subtle it only leaves people slack-jawed and drooling." - Bill Heavey

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57118

                            Originally posted by emc002
                            Smarty pants, I have a 550!
                            Then why are you using the LNL?
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57118

                              Originally posted by emc002
                              That's a very generous offer and I really appreciate it. But being as you're so far from me, I think I'm going to try the fixes suggested here first
                              If Hornady offers a separate plate for 45, it's probably because they know it's needed.
                              Buy it and be done.

                              The Dillon plate for 308/30-06 is also recommended by dillon for 45.
                              Seems they did something different to make it work.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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