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  • Pacilander
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 111

    Natchez is crazy!

    Is it me or is this ridiculous?



    $99.99 for 100 5.56 m855

    After shipping and hazmat this is nearly $1.50 per round! That makes the gouges in the market place look like a super sale!
  • #2
    mls204
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 836

    there's no hazmat charge on ammo.

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    • #3
      monk
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 4454

      Price gouging:

      Noun 1. price gouging - pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available


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      • #4
        asm_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 743

        Originally posted by monk
        Price gouging:

        Noun 1. price gouging - pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available
        Nonu 1. Market Price - The average price of a product being sold at a given time frame.

        Now, if no alternative retailer is available, their price is the average price for the day. Therefore, the concept of price gouging seems like oxymoron.

        Just pointing out the obvious.....

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        • #5
          tiller
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 794

          I just saw that the other day and i want to say it was 54.xx but oos...

          Funny how they raise the price when i comes instock....
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          • #6
            Socalman
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1339

            If I am going to sell you a product at market price that is fair that is fine. If you expect me to ship it to you and you have to pay the cost of preparing the shipment and the actual freight, do not add that to the price and say it is gouging.

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            • #7
              UnknownShooter
              Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 335

              Originally posted by Pacilander
              Is it me or is this ridiculous?



              $99.99 for 100 5.56 m855

              After shipping and hazmat this is nearly $1.50 per round! That makes the gouges in the market place look like a super sale!
              What it sounds like to me is.. they realized that the ammo they were selling @$.50 per round was going on backpage the day after receipt @ $1 a round.

              When they can put up ammo at a buck a round, and it sits on the shelf for 90 days without selling, they have found the maximum price the market will bear. Thats the darkside of capitalism. You see the same thing happen every 4th of july with gasoline.

              If this stuff sells at a buck a round in under 90 days, thats "market price"..

              Perhaps you should remember this lesson when politicians talk of "privatizing" government services, like water, trash service & prisons in the name of saving money. You will pay more than you would like to pay if the choice is no water, no trash service, or releasing felons into your neighborhood.

              A little communism isnt always a bad thing, imho.
              Last edited by UnknownShooter; 04-21-2013, 8:29 AM.

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              • #8
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                Originally posted by UnknownShooter
                ...A little communism isnt always a bad thing, imho.
                Yes, definitely, it would be good if the government stepped in and started setting prices, on everything. That way we would have plenty of ammo at cheap prices.

                You really need to sit down with a good book. Pick up a copy of Adam Smith's, The Wealth of Nations. He wrote it way back in 1776. Nothing has changed much since when it comes to human nature and economics.

                Whatever you do, don't vote in any elections until you read it.
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                • #9
                  UnknownShooter
                  Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 335

                  Originally posted by Bill Steele
                  Yes, definitely, it would be good if the government stepped in and started setting prices, on everything. That way we would have plenty of ammo at cheap prices.

                  You really need to sit down with a good book. Pick up a copy of Adam Smith's, The Wealth of Nations. He wrote it way back in 1776. Nothing has changed much since when it comes to human nature and economics.

                  Whatever you do, don't vote in any elections until you read it.
                  Im just saying.. when you allow capitalists to control a market for essential goods, and they have you by the balls, you shouldnt be surprised when they squeeze them. Thats why identical asthma inhalers that can be sold in Cuba for $.50 cost $100 in the US.

                  If we let the "free market" control our interstate highway system, *every* road would have a toll.

                  There is a downside to capitalism, refusing to acknowledge that wont change the facts. Some things dont belong in private hands.

                  Don't concern yourself with my voting rights. Ive been nullifying one "dittohead's" vote every election for decades.
                  Last edited by UnknownShooter; 04-21-2013, 9:20 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    Originally posted by UnknownShooter
                    Im just saying.. when you allow capitalists to control a market for essential goods, and they have you by the balls, you shouldnt be surprised when they squeeze them. Thats why identical asthma inhalers that can be sold in Cuba for $.50 cost $100 in the US.

                    If we let the "free market" control our interstate highway system, *every* road would have a toll.

                    There is a downside to capitalism, refusing to acknowledge that wont change the facts. Some things dont belong in private hands.

                    Don't concern yourself with my voting rights. Ive been nullifying one "dittohead's" vote every election for decades.
                    Read the book, become enlightened.
                    When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                    • #11
                      JagerDog
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2011
                      • 14559

                      Originally posted by UnknownShooter
                      Im just saying.. when you allow capitalists to control a market for essential goods, and they have you by the balls, you shouldnt be surprised when they squeeze them. Thats why identical asthma inhalers that can be sold in Cuba for $.50 cost $100 in the US.

                      If we let the "free market" control our interstate highway system, *every* road would have a toll.

                      There is a downside to capitalism, refusing to acknowledge that wont change the facts. Some things dont belong in private hands.

                      Don't concern yourself with my voting rights. Ive been nullifying one "dittohead's" vote every election for decades.
                      Govt's role is not to assume mfg/distribution (or set prices). It's to remove barriers which squelch competition while maintaining protections for people/environments. In a capitalistic society, competition is what regulates prices. If someone has a lock constituting inflated prices, competition steps in and removes the lock. Too often gov't regulations are the barrier to entry. Try starting a company making inhalers...or gasoline, or electricity, or......

                      Toll roads? The "freeway" is already a toll road. The cost is just hidden in your gasoline purchases and surcharges on sales tax.

                      Wake up!
                      Last edited by JagerDog; 04-21-2013, 3:41 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Pacilander
                        Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 111

                        Originally posted by Socalman
                        If I am going to sell you a product at market price that is fair that is fine. If you expect me to ship it to you and you have to pay the cost of preparing the shipment and the actual freight, do not add that to the price and say it is gouging.
                        Natchez shipping is gouging by its self. They have always over charged for shipping. I was always okay with it in the past because there prices were usually a few dollars cheaper then midway and grafs. But this price is ridiculous.

                        I was wrong in my initial post that hazmat is required, I have just been buying so much powder and primers that I add it to everything.

                        But I do understand that "fair market value" is the price someone else is willing to pay for an item. And I am sure that they will even sell out. I just think if natchez is now selling 5.56 for $1.00 a round plus shipping. Then I can only imagine the market place is going to start selling at $2.00 a round.

                        I know that if the price is too high no one is forcing me to buy it. I just think its nuts that some people are buying it. Just my opinion.

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                        • #13
                          Jeepergeo
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3506

                          It is the half wit, hoarding buyers that are allowing prices to remain so high. Help us all out and don't hoard and don't buy at these too-high prices. If you and others follow that advice, prices will come down soon as a balanced market returns.
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                          • #14
                            M27
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 871

                            who pays these prices?

                            really who pays 3x what something is worth when with a little patience and searching you can find what you are looking for, or at least a comparable product, at "proper prices"
                            I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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                            • #15
                              UnknownShooter
                              Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 335

                              Originally posted by Jeepergeo
                              It is the half wit, hoarding buyers that are allowing prices to remain so high. Help us all out and don't hoard and don't buy at these too-high prices. If you and others follow that advice, prices will come down soon as a balanced market returns.
                              Lol.. if it wasnt for half-wits and hoarders the economy would collapse into a steaming pile of rubble. Most of our population is:

                              A: bad at math

                              and

                              B: lazy.

                              Thats why people buy new cars instead of old ones..

                              How many times has someone told you they got rid of an old car because it needed a repair? Many times to avoid a $1,000 repair, people spend $20,000 on a new car.

                              People can be irrational for much longer than you might expect.

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