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  • Serviam
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 4

    Transporting Components

    I am moving back to CA in the near future. Anything I need to be aware of regarding transportation of components (casing, primers, powder, projectiles) or reloading equipment? Any special packaging requirements etc?

    I dont have all that much, just a pound of powder, 1500 primers, cases, bullets, press, dies, etc... But Id rather sell it here and rebuy it down there if there is any risk of problems with LEOs on the road, especially since my wife will be driving that particular truck.

    Thanks.
  • #2
    Ferrum
    Janitors Mop
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Aug 2011
    • 4431

    Should be good to go. You aren't commercially transporting...


    The short answer.... 20 LBS


    The long answer.....

    10-3 SMOKELESS PROPELLANTS. 10-3.1 Quantities of smokeless propellants not exceeding 25 LB (11.3kg), in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation, may be transported in a private vehicle.

    10-3.2 Quantities of smokeless propellants exceeding 25 lb (11.3kg) but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), transported in a private vehicle, shall be transported in a portable magazine having wood walls of at least 1-inc. (25.4-mm) nominal thickness.

    10-3.3 Transportation of more than 50 lb (22.7 kg) of smokeless propellants in a private vehicle is prohibited.

    10-3.4 Commercial shipments of smokeless propellants in quantities not exceeding 100 lb. (45.4kg) are classified for transportation purposes as flammable solids when packaged according to U.S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations. (Title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, Park 173.197a), and shall be transported accordingly.

    10-3.5 Commercial shipments of smokeless propellants exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg) or not packaged in accordance with the regulations cited in 10-3.4 shall be transported according to the U. S. Department of Transportation regulations for Class B propellant explosives.

    10-3.6 Smokeless propellants shall be stored in shipping containers specified by U. S. Department of Transportation Hazardous Materials Regulations.

    10-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities not exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg) may be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb (22.7 kg), may be stored in residences if kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls or at least 1-inc. (25.4-mm) nominal thickness.

    10-3.8 Not more than 20 lb (9.1 kg) of smokeless propellants, in containers of 1-lb (0.45-kg) maximum capacity, shall be displayed in commercial establishments.

    10-3.9 Commercial stocks of smokeless propellants should be stored as follows:

    (a) Quantities exceeding 20 lb (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), shall be stored in portable wooden boxes having walls of at least 1-in (25.4-mm) thickness.

    (b) Quantities exceeding 100 lb (45.4 kg), but not exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), shall be stored in non portable storage cabinets having walls of at least 1-in (25.4-mm)thickness. Not more than 400 lb (181 kg) may be stored in any one cabinet and cabinets shall be separated by a distance of at least 25 ft (7.63 m) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.

    (c) Quantities exceeding 800 lb (363 kg), but not exceeding 5,000 lb (2268 kg), may be stored in a building if the following requirements are met:

    1. The warehouse or storage room shall not be accessible to unauthorized personnel.
    2. Smokeless propellant shall be stored in nonportable storage cabinets having wood walls at least 1 inc. (25.4 mm) thick and having shelves with no more than 3 ft (0.92 m) separation between shelves.
    3. No more than 400 lb (181 kg) shall be stored in any one cabinet.
    4. Cabinets shall be located against walls of the storage room or warehouse with at least 40 ft (12.2 m) between cabinets.
    5. Separation between cabinets may be reduced to 250 ft (6.1m) if barricades twice the height of the cabinets are attached to the wall, midway between each cabinet. The barricades shall extend at least 10 ft (3m) outward, shall be firmly attached to the wall, and shall be constructed of 1/4-inc. (6.4-mm) boiler plate, 2-in. (51-mm) thick wood, brick, or concrete block.
    6. Smokeless propellant shall be separated from materials classified by the U.S. Department of Transportation as flammable liquids, flammable solids, and oxidizing materials by a distance of 25 ft (7.63mm) or by a fire partition having a fire resistance of at least 1 hour.
    7. The building shall be protected by an automatic sprinkler system installed accordingly to NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems..

    (d) Smokeless propellants not stored according to (a), (b) and (c) above shall be stored in a Type 4 magazine constructed and located according to Chapter 6.

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    • #3
      asm_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 743

      If you travel by land, I don't think you have any thing to worry about. I mean, when was the last time traffics cop ask , "are you carrying any primers and powder in the trunk?"

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      • #4
        Serviam
        Junior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 4

        "in shipping containers approved by the U.S. Department of Transportation, may be transported in a private vehicle."

        Boy that isn't vague or anything... Guess Im gonna have to see what USDoT says about transporting powder.

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        • #5
          Ferrum
          Janitors Mop
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Aug 2011
          • 4431

          Quit over thinking it! Put them in your vehicle and enjoy the trip!

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          • #6
            Divernhunter
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2010
            • 8753

            Too bad you have to come back here. Just pack all the stuff up and drive.
            A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
            NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
            SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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            • #7
              mark501w
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1699

              Tell'em you don't have any fruits or vegetables at Yermo.

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              • #8
                Whiterabbit
                Calguns Addict
                • Oct 2010
                • 7587

                Originally posted by Serviam
                I am moving back to CA in the near future. Anything I need to be aware of regarding transportation of components (casing, primers, powder, projectiles) or reloading equipment? Any special packaging requirements etc?

                I dont have all that much, just a pound of powder, 1500 primers, cases, bullets, press, dies, etc... But Id rather sell it here and rebuy it down there if there is any risk of problems with LEOs on the road, especially since my wife will be driving that particular truck.

                Thanks.
                Powder and primers must be in DOJ approves steel construction locked container, outside the main cabin of the car, using an approved security locking device, whether 9 oz can or 8 lb jug or more, whether 1 primer or 10,000. LEO that pull you over may inspect the containers for this, and you will be cited for non compliance. Quantities above 100 primers or 1 lb cans will result in mandatory cuffing to the squad car and officer questioning about your religious inclinations and moral fortitudes. It is recommended you tape a copy of your powder and primer purchase permit to your DOJ approved powder container.

                No matter how tempting, do not use a pressure cooker as your locked container. It is not DOJ approved.

                projectiles, being primarily lead, will get you treated like a fisherman. Read the riot act for killing defenseless little fishies and given pamplets at your expense that proclaim the benefits and values of knitting.

                Welcome to California!

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                • #9
                  EscalonShooter
                  Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 238

                  Originally posted by Serviam
                  I am moving back to CA in the near future.

                  Thanks.
                  You have my condolences!!!
                  Trespassers will be shot. Survivors will be eaten.

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