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  • #16
    skosh69
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 4290

    Originally posted by J-cat
    Your primer tool is substandard. Get something good like a Hornady and you won't molest these primers.
    Originally posted by J-cat
    In what way? Is it the die cast pot metal construction that enamours you? I think the Hornady priming tool, machined from aluminum bar stock and steel, is superior. It does not crush primers either.
    It's not about the tool I'm using...I've loaded thousands of Winchester primers without incident.

    Typical thread hijack about how someone wants the OP to use a different piece of equipment just because "THEY" thinks it's superior to what others are using.
    Just like their signature line!

    Bottom line, the Federal primers are soft, just like everyone has stated.

    End of story.

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    • #17
      Lead Waster
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2010
      • 16650

      The bad part of the packaging is that it's so sturdy that you'll keep them around thinking "I can use these for something! I can make something out of them!" But you can't. You want to, but you'll never figure out what the stupid things are good for except garbage!
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      • #18
        J-cat
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2005
        • 6626

        Originally posted by skosh69
        It's not about the tool I'm using...I've loaded thousands of Winchester primers without incident.

        Typical thread hijack about how someone wants the OP to use a different piece of equipment just because "THEY" thinks it's superior to what others are using.
        Just like their signature line!

        Bottom line, the Federal primers are soft, just like everyone has stated.

        End of story.
        And there's nothing wrong with being soft. Just the pos equipment being used to load them.

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        • #19
          CobraRed
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 1018

          I just flipped a box over into my primer handloader, then wiggled it a little. After that had to flip over 7 by hand...




















          ruined my day

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          • #20
            skosh69
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 4290

            Originally posted by J-cat
            And there's nothing wrong with being soft. Just the pos equipment being used to load them.
            Oh ok azz hat, RCBS equipment is POS now. You're a moron.

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            • #21
              JNunez23
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 2755

              Originally posted by DRAB_81
              It's pretty widely known that Federal primers are the softest primers out there. .
              That!! Just stick to Wolf and CCI; and even Remingtons & Winchesters have been good to me.
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              • #22
                J-cat
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2005
                • 6626

                Originally posted by skosh69
                Oh ok azz hat, RCBS equipment is POS now. You're a moron.
                You're the one who's crushing primers with your totally awesome RCBS pot metal priming tool. I'm the one who's not crushing primers with my well made Hornady tool. You're the one posting about your lack of skill and understanding of the reloading process, MR Smartypants.
                Last edited by J-cat; 04-17-2013, 7:18 AM.

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                • #23
                  skosh69
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 4290

                  Originally posted by J-cat
                  You're the one who's crushing primers with your totally awesome RCBS pot metal priming tool. I'm the one who's not crushing primers with my well made Hornady tool. You're the one posting about your lack of skill and understanding of the reloading process, MR Smartypants.
                  On the contrary...look how many others have laid claim that Federal primers are soft and tend to dimple. Just so you know, I loaded up some Winchester primers last night using as you would call it, substandard equipment, and didn't have one dimple....hmmm? Ya, that's it, I'm using substandard equipment.

                  I never posted anything resembling my lack or skill or understanding of equipment. I simply asked if anyone else ever had the problem with Federal primers dimpling or deforming. Learn to read.

                  You're just a troll that wants everyone to sell their equipment and buy Hornady. If I really wanted quality equipment, I'd save and buy Dillon, not Hornady.



                  You jacked my thread...you should be proud of yourself!
                  Last edited by skosh69; 04-17-2013, 8:06 AM.

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                  • #24
                    fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1408



                    Thump operated? he was using two thumbs and 8 fingers. Again, the half moon dents were annoying, the reloader was not using Federal primers and the new shell holder did not correct the problem.

                    If it was not for Federal primers I would (almost) be out of primers.

                    F. Guffey

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                    • #25
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      It's pretty feeble minded to launch a personal attack when you can't argue your point effectively. You don't have the experience or the mental acuity to determine what is quality in the reloading arena. You post nonsense about Federal primers and hold your RCBS tool up like its the holy grail. You are emotionally invested in your equipment. That, my friend, is a sign of mental illness. I don't want people to buy Hornady. I want people to buy quality. It just happens to be that Hornady makes a higher quality priming tool than RCBS. It is also the only Hornady product I own. I happen to own some RCBS tools as well, and Redding and Lee and some wazoo stuff too. Bottom line, they are quality tools.

                      What I'm trying to tell you is that I'm not condemning the brand. What you are doing is assuming everything within the umbrella of the brand is of the same quality. It is not. Grow up.

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                      • #26
                        hairtumor
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 750

                        if this helps anyone I just received an e mail response from Lee about Federal primers with my Lee turret press and the safery prime. their response was it was OK to use Federal primers in the safety prime system because the primer being seated is seperated from the others.

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                        • #27
                          skosh69
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4290

                          Originally posted by J-cat

                          What I'm trying to tell you is that I'm not condemning the brand. .
                          Really? You started this argument with your bashing of my choice or at the time availability of tools. Go read your first post!

                          Look man, this can go on for ever and ever. I'm not saying RCBS is the best, never did. You claim that I did. I came here to ask if anyone else had issues with Federal primers and YES, there have. Then there is yourself and others have not. That's great, good for you.

                          But to say that I'm an idiot and do not know how to reload, that I do not know what quality equipment is and every other insult that you have posted just cements the fact that you need to grow up and that you are a control freak, just like your sig line states. You think you're better than everyone and you're nothing more than an internet troll/bully.
                          Last edited by skosh69; 04-17-2013, 9:04 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Divernhunter
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2010
                            • 8753

                            I have loaded many federal primers. All have fired and gave good performance, that is what matters. I have also loaded Alcan/Win/Rem/CCI and some from a German company. All have been good except I had some duds out of a batch of Win primers. I bought them a few years back so I just use them for plinking ammo. I do not think that is too bad since I started reloading in the early 1960's and those are the only ones I have ever had a dud/problem with.
                            I used a RCBS Rockchucker press primer for years. Then when lee came out with their hand primer I started using it. I also have an early RCBS hand primer without the tray. One of the lee primers left markes on just about all the primers but they all worked and fired. The newest lee primer tools I got do not do so. I have worn out 3 of them. I keep one set up for small and one for large primers.

                            Bottom line.----Do not worry about it. Just primer, finish loading and shoot them. Enjoy yourself. OR you can send all Federal primers to me for proper disposal
                            A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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                            • #29
                              JNunez23
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2755

                              Geez... Some people really need "real life" friends to tell them they're being total D Bags sometimes.
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                              • #30
                                M27
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 871

                                Originally posted by J-cat
                                In what way? Is it the die cast pot metal construction that enamours you? I think the Hornady priming tool, machined from aluminum bar stock and steel, is superior. It does not crush primers either.
                                The main thing I like about the RCBS over the hornady is the location and type of the hinge. I find the hornady tool with the hinge it has is awkward to use and does not give as much feed back. The RCBS tool also requires less strength to use than the hornady, so says my small framed girlfriend who also reloads.

                                While the rcbs is "pot metal", so what, does that make it not strong enough to do its job. Can anyone please give me an example of a rcbs hand priming tool failing because of the metal it is made out of? This cast metal also alows for a more ergonomic tool.

                                I also find the RCBS tools feed tray to give a lot fewer flipped primers than the hornady tool, as well as different feed trays are not needed for different brand shell holders.

                                My hornady tool can still crush the GM150M primers I use.

                                I love hornady products and you will find my house and garage littered with them, but I prefer the rcbs tool over the hornady tool.

                                Final question, what expirence with the rcbs tool do you have that you baced your opinion off of?
                                Last edited by M27; 04-18-2013, 11:37 AM.
                                I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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